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Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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icefox wrote: post #162
captainmuon wrote: post #47

A few random thoughts: - Wow, hell is really freezing over! - The hardest part of running bash and other posix things under windows is filesystem access. Windows uses drive letters and backslashes, unix has a root filesystem with forward slashes. It seems they are taking the same route as cygwin by "mounting" windows drives in /mnt/c (or /cygdrive/c). - If you just wanted bash and some posix tools, the harder but nic…

Some long term thoughts: 1) Linux has won the server (web) market. Developers would like to use a Unix box to work on their server code so they typically move to OS X. This could prevent that switch because they can still use Windows to developer their Linux server software. 2) Many projects start out as Linux and stay Linux and are only ported after much time and effort to Windows. Enterprises when faced with a tool…

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Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by rejschaap »

anthk wrote: post #132
mrkd wrote: post #33

Scott Hanselman has a good write-up here: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUs... Google Cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http:/...

"Of course, I have no idea how to CLOSE emacs, so I'll close the window. ;)" What if you read the welcome screen, Mr. Scott ;) ?

"C-x C-c... what does that even mean?"

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by cbhl »

icefox wrote: post #162
captainmuon wrote: post #47

A few random thoughts: - Wow, hell is really freezing over! - The hardest part of running bash and other posix things under windows is filesystem access. Windows uses drive letters and backslashes, unix has a root filesystem with forward slashes. It seems they are taking the same route as cygwin by "mounting" windows drives in /mnt/c (or /cygdrive/c). - If you just wanted bash and some posix tools, the harder but nic…

Some long term thoughts: 1) Linux has won the server (web) market. Developers would like to use a Unix box to work on their server code so they typically move to OS X. This could prevent that switch because they can still use Windows to developer their Linux server software. 2) Many projects start out as Linux and stay Linux and are only ported after much time and effort to Windows. Enterprises when faced with a tool…

I imagine that 3) and 5) are hedged by how well Visual Studio is doing.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by quotemstr »

captainmuon wrote: post #47

A few random thoughts: - Wow, hell is really freezing over! - The hardest part of running bash and other posix things under windows is filesystem access. Windows uses drive letters and backslashes, unix has a root filesystem with forward slashes. It seems they are taking the same route as cygwin by "mounting" windows drives in /mnt/c (or /cygdrive/c). - If you just wanted bash and some posix tools, the harder but nic…

> Windows uses drive letters and backslashes, unix has a root filesystem with forward slashes.

Windows also has mountpoints. When I use a Windows system, I pretend that C: is the only drive, and mount external volumes under the root, Unix-style. I then install Cygwin in the C:\ root, creating the illusion of a fairly Unix-ish filesystem layout.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by stcredzero »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #46

microsoft is leveraging FOSS Linux to get Mac users. I think it's a real smart move. The author points to using grep and Xargs and some other tools to quickly update a package. That's the key here. These bash/Linux utilities are productivy boosters for all the Linux and Mac/bsd people out there. I can't imagine living without them and they're necessary for any system I develop on (which is currently a Mac).

microsoft is leveraging FOSS Linux to get Mac users. I think it's a real smart move.

Apple leveraged a form of BSD -nix to get developer mindshare. Now Microsoft is leveraging FOSS Linux to leapfrog Apple. It is a smart move. While OS X isn't bad for -nix-like development, it still involves jumping through hoops and compromises. (Homebrew/Macports)

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by frik »

Is this part of a patent deal between Microsoft and Canonical? Or why would Canonical help them - that' s the only explanation that makes sense. We all know how it works out for companies sleeping in bed with a huge corporation... either the buy you, do an inside job trojan horse style, or compete against you. (Cyanogen, Nokia, Xamarin, Yahoo, Sun, RedHat, Google, Apple, etc) If they buy Canonical and/or RedHat, I would drop Ubuntu/RedHat in a second and would advise everyone to switch to Debian or another independent community driven distro.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by TallGuyShort »

hodwik wrote: post #48

How in God's green earth did Canonical think helping Microsoft with this was a good idea for the Linux community?

How is it a bad idea? It's a step to making Linux a more viable platform for software to target and makes life easier for a subset of application developers who already target Linux. I'm sure there will be a few people who would otherwise switch to Linux entirely and may not now, but I would expect this to do more good than harm to Linux.
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