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Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Actually, a lot of what you see in Windows 10 is running on top of UWP.

Some of the UI apps perhaps, but if you ripped out win32, I don't think you'd have a very usable machine left to log on to?

That's true, but only because there isn't a great story in UWP for underlying services.

Non-sandboxed applications and services are not a sustainable strategy anymore.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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You mean programs?

No, I mean apps. I'm just as lazy as anybody else, and I don't see a need to use an older word with an extra syllable and a bunch of baggage just to show off that I was using computers before the iPhone came out. If they were distributed as .programx files instead of .appx files, maybe you'd have a point.

So when the IPhone came out, the word 'program' was changed to 'app'?

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Yes. Windows Shell, Xbox, Office, Skype, HoloLens, etc. are all using UWP.

Windows Explorer is not UWP. The Office version you get with Office 365 ("Desktop Office"), the one, businesses use, is certainly not UWP. Skype UWP is a preview announced a few days ago. "Are all using UWP"? No. They are in a transition of moving to UWP, but every serious business application is Win32.

>Windows Explorer is not UWP.

It's a hybrid: start menu, action centre and some other elements are UWP's XAML frames now.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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You can distribute universal Windows apps outside the Windows Store.

If your customers check a setting called “side-loading” in "Updates & Security" under "For developers" with a fairly scary warning, then yes you can sell outside the Windows Store.

These settings are about digital signatures of applications.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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What ever happened to programs? Was there something about that word that terribly offended people? Too hard to type out? Is 'app' soon going to be replaced by some kind of pictogram? Enquiring minds want to know.

A couple of days ago, I was thinking how rare we use program word now. web apps, mobile apps, standalone apps...

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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App implies microsoft gets a monopoly on control and distribution (as well as revocation), ie app store, ie walled garden. It also implies you should expect it to not be open source, and you should expect to pay at least $0.99 for it.

You can distribute universal Windows apps outside the Windows Store.

Yes, they've been trailing that for a while. Do you know if there's any kind of legally-binding commitment to keep this option open, or might this be a temporary thing while they try to get some traction for the platform?

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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What ever happened to programs? Was there something about that word that terribly offended people? Too hard to type out? Is 'app' soon going to be replaced by some kind of pictogram? Enquiring minds want to know.

(disclaimer, I'm a Microsoft employee and this is only my opinion). There's an important distinction which often don't see discussed when this topic comes up: It can be very dangerous to install a program on your machine, but an 'app' comes with some assurance. People often think of the app store as a method for MS to grab your money, but in my opinion it fixes many of the installation/deployment problems that have e…

This sounds nice and reasonable, but I think it's a post hoc explanation that doesn't quite work. Look at the language in the linked article. It talks about converting my "Win32 apps" into "Universal Windows Platform apps". But those legacy programs aren't "apps" within the meaning you've laid out.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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No, I mean apps. I'm just as lazy as anybody else, and I don't see a need to use an older word with an extra syllable and a bunch of baggage just to show off that I was using computers before the iPhone came out. If they were distributed as .programx files instead of .appx files, maybe you'd have a point.

So when the IPhone came out, the word 'program' was changed to 'app'?

Even before the iPhone came out, people used the abbreviation "app" for "application".

Source: I was around then ;)

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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So when the IPhone came out, the word 'program' was changed to 'app'?

Even before the iPhone came out, people used the abbreviation "app" for "application". Source: I was around then ;)

But did they use "app" instead of "program"?

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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If your customers check a setting called “side-loading” in "Updates & Security" under "For developers" with a fairly scary warning, then yes you can sell outside the Windows Store.

Nope. Now you can double-click the appx file. Demonstrated on Build keynote.

Well, that's a whole lot nicer than their website is currently telling me. I did look for updated instructions as this has been a bit of issue with contractor supplied software.
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