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Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by wlesieutre »

jamesdwilson wrote: post #8
bradleyjg wrote: post #2

What ever happened to programs? Was there something about that word that terribly offended people? Too hard to type out? Is 'app' soon going to be replaced by some kind of pictogram? Enquiring minds want to know.

App implies microsoft gets a monopoly on control and distribution (as well as revocation), ie app store, ie walled garden. It also implies you should expect it to not be open source, and you should expect to pay at least $0.99 for it.

You can distribute universal Windows apps outside the Windows Store.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by mikeash »

bradleyjg wrote: post #2

What ever happened to programs? Was there something about that word that terribly offended people? Too hard to type out? Is 'app' soon going to be replaced by some kind of pictogram? Enquiring minds want to know.

You're decades late on this. "App" has been used as a shorthand way to refer to programs for a loooong time. Random example, Apple had an object oriented framework called MacApp in 1985.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by maxxxxx »

Aleman360 wrote: post #6
0x0 wrote: post #5

It's weird to hear "win32" called "legacy". Last I checked everything from "wininit.exe" to "svchost.exe" to "winlogon.exe" were win32 (or win64) applications. Guess the entire base operating system is legacy! :O

Actually, a lot of what you see in Windows 10 is running on top of UWP.

Is that true? They never used Winforms or WPF much themselves. Have they really started using the frameworks they push their users into?

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by Aleman360 »

maxxxxx wrote: post #13
Aleman360 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, a lot of what you see in Windows 10 is running on top of UWP.

Is that true? They never used Winforms or WPF much themselves. Have they really started using the frameworks they push their users into?

Yes. Windows Shell, Xbox, Office, Skype, HoloLens, etc. are all using UWP.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

maxxxxx wrote: post #13
Aleman360 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, a lot of what you see in Windows 10 is running on top of UWP.

Is that true? They never used Winforms or WPF much themselves. Have they really started using the frameworks they push their users into?

Yeah, one of the things you'll notice if your Modern apps are broken on Windows 10, is that your Start Menu no longer works either. (Not meaning to be negative, but this is how I realized the Start Menu was using their new framework.)

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by Longhanks »

Aleman360 wrote: post #14
maxxxxx wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that true? They never used Winforms or WPF much themselves. Have they really started using the frameworks they push their users into?

Yes. Windows Shell, Xbox, Office, Skype, HoloLens, etc. are all using UWP.

Windows Explorer is not UWP.

The Office version you get with Office 365 ("Desktop Office"), the one, businesses use, is certainly not UWP.

Skype UWP is a preview announced a few days ago.

"Are all using UWP"? No. They are in a transition of moving to UWP, but every serious business application is Win32.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by ant6n »

wlesieutre wrote: post #11
jamesdwilson wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

App implies microsoft gets a monopoly on control and distribution (as well as revocation), ie app store, ie walled garden. It also implies you should expect it to not be open source, and you should expect to pay at least $0.99 for it.

You can distribute universal Windows apps outside the Windows Store.

You mean programs?

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by digi_owl »

mikeash wrote: post #12
bradleyjg wrote: post #2

What ever happened to programs? Was there something about that word that terribly offended people? Too hard to type out? Is 'app' soon going to be replaced by some kind of pictogram? Enquiring minds want to know.

You're decades late on this. "App" has been used as a shorthand way to refer to programs for a loooong time. Random example, Apple had an object oriented framework called MacApp in 1985.

But outside of the Apple world program was most commonly used. It took the rise of the iPhone for app to displace program.

Re: Microsoft Announces Converter for Bringing Win32 Apps to the Windows Store

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Post by protomyth »

wlesieutre wrote: post #11
jamesdwilson wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

App implies microsoft gets a monopoly on control and distribution (as well as revocation), ie app store, ie walled garden. It also implies you should expect it to not be open source, and you should expect to pay at least $0.99 for it.

You can distribute universal Windows apps outside the Windows Store.

If your customers check a setting called “side-loading” in "Updates & Security" under "For developers" with a fairly scary warning, then yes you can sell outside the Windows Store.
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