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Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by luxpir »

Anyone turned off by the ridiculous amount of config required for a todo list, feel free to try out my plaintext productivity 'suite'. It's intended to be used in vim, but do as you please!

> https://github.com/luxpir/plaintext-productivity

Features: todos, timestamps, tagging, calendar, kanban-in-a-text-file (vertical, not horizontal)

It was a response to org-mode complexity and the cruft it encourages you to stow away and never look at again, as well as its rather insane amount of features, 95% of which I had no need for. I make some more detailed comments about org-mode in the post linked to from the repo (https://lukespear.co.uk/plaintext-productivity).

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by groovy2shoes »

sdnguyen90 wrote: post #124
midgetjones wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or for anyone that is more open-minded, yet worried about the learning curve of switching from vim to emacs: http://spacemacs.org/

I switched to Spacemacs from Vim a few months ago and I'm probably never going back to Vim. I didn't notice any difference between Evil mode and actual Vim. Took me a week or two to learn the Emacs and Spacemacs specific things before I was comfortable using as my primary editor.

The fact that I cannot use `space` as a direction/movement key in spacemacs is a non-starter for me. I'd have more luck just learning Emacs's keybindings at that point.

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by jquast »

wtbob wrote: post #112
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any vim user, try this: 1. brew install emacs, apt-get install emacs, or pkg add emacs 2. vim ~/.emacs 3. paste the following, verbatim. Don't bother reading it: (require 'package) ;; You might already have this line (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (when ( 4. :wq 5. Open emacs 6. Press escape, then "x", then enter. Now type package-install and press enter. 7. Type evil-mode…

> These are called "M-x" in emacs parlance. And if you use the GUI version of emacs, you can use alt-x instead of pressing escape then x. It's much easier, but doesn't seem to work in the terminal. That works in all my terminals — I suspect something's awry with your settings. One issue is that if you use gnome-terminal under Ubuntu, I think by default it steals alt for its own menus. There's a setting to disable tha…

Set option 'metaSendsEscape' for xterm, lots of help here, https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MetaKeyProblems

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by fernandotakai »

groovy2shoes wrote: post #132
sdnguyen90 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Spacemacs from Vim a few months ago and I'm probably never going back to Vim. I didn't notice any difference between Evil mode and actual Vim. Took me a week or two to learn the Emacs and Spacemacs specific things before I was comfortable using as my primary editor.

The fact that I cannot use `space` as a direction/movement key in spacemacs is a non-starter for me. I'd have more luck just learning Emacs's keybindings at that point.

at least for me, it feels like i have to change my whole workflow to match spacemacs, instead of being the other way around (i, being able to easily config spacemacs to match my current vim workflow).

it honestly felt really backwards to use spacemacs after ~10y of vim usage. i would prefer to learn plain emacs + evil mode instead.

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by grblovrflowerrr »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #118
TeMPOraL wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Check out Yegge's post about the universal design pattern as applied to gamedev. You mean this one? http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/10/universal-design-pat...

Yeah! It looks like your URL 404's though. http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/10/universal-design-pat... All of it is pretty interesting, but it's sort of unreasonable to say "Here, read this tome." You can skip to the Wyvern section for the important bit. Gamedevs will be particularly interested, because the question of "How do I enable people to write games in the most flexible way?" is one of the great unsolved…

I'm interested in this idea. What aspect of emacs design makes it unique? What are the "core ideas" you mention?

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by pyre »

groovy2shoes wrote: post #132
sdnguyen90 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Spacemacs from Vim a few months ago and I'm probably never going back to Vim. I didn't notice any difference between Evil mode and actual Vim. Took me a week or two to learn the Emacs and Spacemacs specific things before I was comfortable using as my primary editor.

The fact that I cannot use `space` as a direction/movement key in spacemacs is a non-starter for me. I'd have more luck just learning Emacs's keybindings at that point.

Really? As a long-time Vim user that switched to Spacemacs but ended up back on Vim, I've never used the space bar for movement. I'm curious do you also use backspace for movement?

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by Willyfrog »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #33
colah3 wrote: post #24

I really like org-mode and used it heavily for about a year. But I found having my todo list on a single computer pretty limiting. Thankfully, there's a new generation of org-mode inspired cloud apps: * https://workflowy.com/ -- the most mature app * https://www.moo.do -- really nice Google Apps integration * https://checkvist.com/ -- extremely feature rich I'm really excited by these tools. I feel like org-mode has…

I'd say there's one primary "potential to improve" - a mobile app. The situation is better than it used to be, but frankly still not good enough IMO. Otherwise, an org-mode + Dropbox combo works perfectly for me; every computer I own or work on has Emacs installed anyway. And it's hard to note down so much content on mobile that you won't be able to retype it back on a proper computer under 5 minutes.

if you use android you can use:

http://www.orgzly.com/

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by malloryerik »

wtbob wrote: post #112
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any vim user, try this: 1. brew install emacs, apt-get install emacs, or pkg add emacs 2. vim ~/.emacs 3. paste the following, verbatim. Don't bother reading it: (require 'package) ;; You might already have this line (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (when ( 4. :wq 5. Open emacs 6. Press escape, then "x", then enter. Now type package-install and press enter. 7. Type evil-mode…

> These are called "M-x" in emacs parlance. And if you use the GUI version of emacs, you can use alt-x instead of pressing escape then x. It's much easier, but doesn't seem to work in the terminal. That works in all my terminals — I suspect something's awry with your settings. One issue is that if you use gnome-terminal under Ubuntu, I think by default it steals alt for its own menus. There's a setting to disable tha…

I actually use empty shift for parens, so comfy I almost feel guilty about it...

Re: Org Mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text

#139

Post by malloryerik »

wtbob wrote: post #112
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any vim user, try this: 1. brew install emacs, apt-get install emacs, or pkg add emacs 2. vim ~/.emacs 3. paste the following, verbatim. Don't bother reading it: (require 'package) ;; You might already have this line (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (when ( 4. :wq 5. Open emacs 6. Press escape, then "x", then enter. Now type package-install and press enter. 7. Type evil-mode…

> These are called "M-x" in emacs parlance. And if you use the GUI version of emacs, you can use alt-x instead of pressing escape then x. It's much easier, but doesn't seem to work in the terminal. That works in all my terminals — I suspect something's awry with your settings. One issue is that if you use gnome-terminal under Ubuntu, I think by default it steals alt for its own menus. There's a setting to disable tha…

I actually use empty shift for parens, so comfy I almost feel guilty about it...
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