A Saner Windows Command Line
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A Saner Windows Command Line
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Re: A Saner Windows Command Line
#2At our office we jokingly refer to powershell as "two googles per line" - a term coined by its strongest proponent at the company.
It thought it would come naturally over time, but it never does. It seems needlessly cryptic and verbose in so many ways. I've started using LinqPad for stuff I would normally do in cmd now.
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#3Most of my issues with windows command line have been solved by installing the unix tools to the path when installing git. Provides most of the commands I need (including a native ssh that works from the windows+r dialouge) and I have mingw if I need to do something with bash itself.
This on windows 10 with it's nice new command window is pretty nice, but I still do anything serious on my macbook.
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#4At our office we jokingly refer to powershell as "two googles per line" - a term coined by its strongest proponent at the company. It thought it would come naturally over time, but it never does. It seems needlessly cryptic and verbose in so many ways. I've started using LinqPad for stuff I would normally do in cmd now.
Agree on that one, it's really verbose and ugly. I liked the idea of a cmd that integrates so nicely with .NET but I don't think it worked out this time.
We use powershell a lot at work for developer setup stuff and other common tasks we do on a daily basis and at this point I've considered just writing my own language to do it or find something else.
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#5Powershell and its long winded cmdlets are really hard for me to like. I always fall back to cygwin on windows.
I once wrote a PS script to set some power management options on a corporate laptop. The script was 11 lines long (vs 3 lines in Python), it was harder to read and understand. Even with ISE available it was much harder to write.
I followed along with some exchange server tutorial where the prescribed easy way to achieve the task was a completely unintuitive PS script. I kept thinking about how much easier that particular config change was to make on a Linux host running postfix.
I can't see what benefit PS has over cygwin bash but I'd love to hear ideas because PS comes installed out of the box where I have to install cygwin myself.
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#6> "And, purely subjectively, I think the .ps1 syntax is a lot more readable than the old .bat syntax."
The Author does say "subjectively" but in my experience, both personally and with others, the reverse is true. Powershell can seem to be really cryptic.
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#8Powershell and its long winded cmdlets are really hard for me to like. I always fall back to cygwin on windows. I once wrote a PS script to set some power management options on a corporate laptop. The script was 11 lines long (vs 3 lines in Python), it was harder to read and understand. Even with ISE available it was much harder to write. I followed along with some exchange server tutorial where the prescribed easy w…
> The script was 11 lines long (vs 3 lines in Python), it was harder to read and understand.
Note that this might be true for one script, and the opposite might be true for another script. Something is saner in bash, something is better in PS. They have fundamental differences (text- vs. object-based), and neither of them is better than the other in all scenarios. (At least that's my experience.)
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#9> "And, purely subjectively, I think the .ps1 syntax is a lot more readable than the old .bat syntax." The Author does say "subjectively" but in my experience, both personally and with others, the reverse is true. Powershell can seem to be really cryptic.
Bash can be _extremely_ cryptic as well, we just learned it over time. Look at awk :)
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#10Windows is no go for me as long as there will be no option to use ansible from cmd - fortunately you can manage windows box from OSX or Linux box with ansible