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Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#31

Funny that some of the pharmaceutical research is 60-70% public money yet the results are IPd by the company.

I find it funny that people blame this on greed/capitalism/profit instead of IP laws.

The IP laws are based on greed/capitalism/profit. No one besides the big corps want this just ask Mickey Mouse.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

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post #7

I have to say, we should all be super grateful for the OSS community. There's so much free non-publicly funded continuously supported OSS available within a click of a button. I am a data scientist, and everyday I am amazed how powerful the anaconda distribution (and its over 150 included packages) is. Is there any industry on Earth that has anything like OSS?

Bioinformatics is close.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#33
Journal articles from NIH funded research are already required to be made freely accessible within 12 months of publication.

http://publicaccess.nih.gov/policy.htm

>The NIH Public Access Policy implements Division F Section 217 of PL 111-8 (Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009). The law states:

>The Director of the National Institutes of Health ("NIH") shall require in the current fiscal year and thereafter that all investigators funded by the NIH submit or have submitted for them to the National Library of Medicine's PubMed Central an electronic version of their final, peer-reviewed manuscripts upon acceptance for publication, to be made publicly available no later than 12 months after the official date of publication: Provided, that the NIH shall implement the public access policy in a manner consistent with copyright law.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#34

Funny that some of the pharmaceutical research is 60-70% public money yet the results are IPd by the company.

I find it funny that people blame this on greed/capitalism/profit instead of IP laws.

which is why I dont understand the "let's just buy them from canada" mentality

buying drugs abroad just skirts ip price fixing. we can skirt price fixing here by making drugs and not paying the ransom costs.

should the government be able to pull eminent domain on lifesaving drugs?

should all drugs purchased with public funds (ex medicare) be exempt from any cost/margin past manufacturing?

it feels to me like importing from canada is having cake and eating it too. we either agree that full drug prices are legitimate or we agree they are unethical. you cant pretend both are compatible worldviews.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#35

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I find it funny that people blame this on greed/capitalism/profit instead of IP laws.

The IP laws are based on greed/capitalism/profit. No one besides the big corps want this just ask Mickey Mouse.

But they only exist because the government has the power to create those laws. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The IP laws are based on greed/capitalism/profit. No one besides the big corps want this just ask Mickey Mouse.

But they only exist because the government has the power to create those laws. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

They still exist because companies lobby to keep them alive.

I don't hate the player I simply observe how the game is played.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#37
post #12

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I have wondered this before as well. I can't think of any industry that is as open as FOSS. There is FOSS available for literally everything you could ever want or need[0]. FOSS enabled me to learn about programming computers with zero cost (other than the hardware of course). Sure the paid closed source tools are probably "better" (usually that mostly means prettier) but it amazes me that anyone on earth can grab a…

My Counter-Strike addiction would like a word with you. Although Linux support has been getting a lot better for gaming, admittedly.

I've been playing CS on Linux for about 15 years.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#38
post #7

I have to say, we should all be super grateful for the OSS community. There's so much free non-publicly funded continuously supported OSS available within a click of a button. I am a data scientist, and everyday I am amazed how powerful the anaconda distribution (and its over 150 included packages) is. Is there any industry on Earth that has anything like OSS?

Bioinformatics is close.

Could you please elaborate for those unfamiliar with their community?

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they only exist because the government has the power to create those laws. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

They still exist because companies lobby to keep them alive. I don't hate the player I simply observe how the game is played.

True. Point is I think the government should be the focus here, not the players who take advantage of the rules they create.

Re: Publicly Funded Research Should Be Publicly Available

#40

Funny that some of the pharmaceutical research is 60-70% public money yet the results are IPd by the company.

60-70% public money How are you judging the percentage there? Are you including the cost of drugs that don't get approved?

According to somebody who works in this industry it is the standard contribution. Does not matter if the drug does not get approved, the money is for the research, as far as I know.
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