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State of Bootstrap 4 vs. Foundation

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Re: State of Bootstrap 4 vs. Foundation

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I've been a big fan of bootstrap, but I find that these CSS frameworks are becoming more and more irrelevant in the age of widespread flexbox support. CSS modules do put the last nail in the coffin.

What about a CSS framework based on flexbox? http://bulma.io

I do like what I see, though Flexbox makes most of it so trivial that the benefits of adding it as a dependency seem limited.

I've taken to using CSS frameworks as reference guides for solving certain problems, I tend to not use them directly.

Re: State of Bootstrap 4 vs. Foundation

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Really? Not even relevant anymore IMO.

You'd be amazed :) I write web applications for internal use at non-profits. If the office boxes still run IE8, IE8 has to be supported by the application.

Have you tried talking them into the current century and all of its spoils?

Re: State of Bootstrap 4 vs. Foundation

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Yes Semantic UI has come a long way and changed since I first used them 1-2 years ago. I have just tried it on a new project their annoying build process and lack of official SASS support the style and out of box components are really great.

Semantic UI looks the best, but once you start to do your own things, you end up fighting it. I'd love to see some of the stuff Semantic UI does just as an add-in/theme for Bootstrap (Forms are beautifull). I created an app for a customer in it, and while it looks shiny, it would have been more cost-effective to just have used bootstrap.

I've been helping out a developer that has been building sites with Semantic UI and it's making my skin crawl.

It seems like a good start for prototyping and admin interfaces, but for anything else it just adds too much styling and classes that need to be overridden.

The name seems poorly choosen, since you're constantly adding classes that reference styling decisions making it everything but semantic (ui very wide, ui very thin, ui three column doubling grid, …).

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