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Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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I call this the "abstraction paradox".

There is no way that an abstraction can fully equate what it abstracts. "Apple" could never equal a real apple. But abstraction allows us to think about real apples. In science, all theories and models are abstractions. Hence, they are always approximations, and can be invalidated or nullified with edge cases that can indeed be backed by evidence.

But the opposite is also true. If a theory is based on evidence, then it will always be an approximation of the truth to some degree. Hence, there will always be hard evidence that validates the theory also -- ideally the evidence the theory is based on.

The ultimate test is application. If a theory or model has purpose, as in, has a use, then the value of that theory can be measured by its consequences. Otherwise, frankly, academics arguing over what has no consequence will have no consequence outside the circles of those who argue over it. I sense "fuck nuance" as a message to them.

We still use Newtonian mechanics where objects are big and slow enough. But we also use general relativity, quantum mechanics, quantum field theory, etc, where more accuracy is required. So we already know theories have limits and degrade with constraints, and we switch theories.

This is true of EVERY THEORY. And that is the abstraction paradox.

If you're arguing over someone just to prove them wrong, congratulations, you've just proved you're completely redundant. So fuck you. (in the spirit of the author)

Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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I realized as I was reading this that I know very little about sociology as a discipline. In particular, I'm unaware of any of its "Great Theories", a la General Relativity for physics, or Darwinian Evolution for biology. Any candidates? I'm not trying to be snide, I really would like to learn more about this. The Wikipedia page for sociology describes "theories" that sound more like schools of thought.

The thing about sociology is that there simply aren't definitive theories akin General Relativity in sociology. At best there are broad methodological schools and approaches, (such as Structuralism, Utilitarianism, etc). The difference is none of these schools and approaches have been or could (within present constraints) be established by experiments as definitive as Newtonian physics, General Relativity, the atomic theory of matter.

I'm not saying sociology is useless - rather it seems to work by combining a broad approach with specific statistical analysis to get some idea that the specific analysis has some merit.

The non-definitive quality of social science at this level is why sociologists talk about nuance. Just finding a correlation tends to really sketchy for causation - having a reason that the correlation would be causation is better than nothing but still a thin reed.

Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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post #4

I realized as I was reading this that I know very little about sociology as a discipline. In particular, I'm unaware of any of its "Great Theories", a la General Relativity for physics, or Darwinian Evolution for biology. Any candidates? I'm not trying to be snide, I really would like to learn more about this. The Wikipedia page for sociology describes "theories" that sound more like schools of thought.

Latour's "Reassembling the social" is an interesting, non-ancient perspective.

I mean, people in the social sciences tend to tell you to read Durkheim and Weber and Marx while no one would tell someone to learn calculus on Newton, Cauchy or even Landau.

Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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post #31

I call this the "abstraction paradox". There is no way that an abstraction can fully equate what it abstracts. "Apple" could never equal a real apple. But abstraction allows us to think about real apples. In science, all theories and models are abstractions. Hence, they are always approximations, and can be invalidated or nullified with edge cases that can indeed be backed by evidence. But the opposite is also true.…

Abstractions need not be approximations. Schroedinger's equation is an abstraction, but as far as we know it's exact.

Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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post #35
post #31

I call this the "abstraction paradox". There is no way that an abstraction can fully equate what it abstracts. "Apple" could never equal a real apple. But abstraction allows us to think about real apples. In science, all theories and models are abstractions. Hence, they are always approximations, and can be invalidated or nullified with edge cases that can indeed be backed by evidence. But the opposite is also true.…

Abstractions need not be approximations. Schroedinger's equation is an abstraction, but as far as we know it's exact.

Abstractions of social sciences do need to be approximations :-)

Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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post #4

I realized as I was reading this that I know very little about sociology as a discipline. In particular, I'm unaware of any of its "Great Theories", a la General Relativity for physics, or Darwinian Evolution for biology. Any candidates? I'm not trying to be snide, I really would like to learn more about this. The Wikipedia page for sociology describes "theories" that sound more like schools of thought.

It seems like memetics wants to be for sociology what genetics is for evolution and biology, but as far as I know they haven't been able to trace "memes" back to their neurological roots. It's an interesting idea but won't dislodge prevailing schools of thought until/unless it has its own Watson and Crick moment.

Re: Fuck Nuance [pdf]

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post #31

I call this the "abstraction paradox". There is no way that an abstraction can fully equate what it abstracts. "Apple" could never equal a real apple. But abstraction allows us to think about real apples. In science, all theories and models are abstractions. Hence, they are always approximations, and can be invalidated or nullified with edge cases that can indeed be backed by evidence. But the opposite is also true.…

Abstractions need not be approximations. Schroedinger's equation is an abstraction, but as far as we know it's exact.

The moment the theory is the reality, it's exact. Like cartoons. Like definitions. Like math. But physics and science is about reality. It's about the physical apple, not the word apple. A real apple is physical. There is no amount of theory or symbolism that will produce a real apple in the minds and systems that simulate it. That's the paradox.
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