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Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#82
I'm not a native speaker, I had no idea what "kike" means in english before reading this issue.

I intended the word only in the sense "to suffer the same fate as the azer/kik project".

I renamed the project, my apologies to anyone who could have been offended by my mistake.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#83

I'm not a native speaker, I had no idea what "kike" means in english before reading this issue. I intended the word only in the sense "to suffer the same fate as the azer/kik project". I renamed the project, my apologies to anyone who could have been offended by my mistake.

No harm done, node itself has 'gyp' which is a racial epithet for gypsies in most of Europe.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#84
post #58

Without wishing to otherwise get involved at all, I'd like to say that as an Australian native english speaker, I have never heard of the word "kike" or that it is apparently a slur against jews. Why would anyone else in the world know that? I have nothing against jews, but it pisses me off that some local slang is elevated into a global "character sequence you can't use", so long as that slang originates in NYC. Ima…

As an Australian native English speaker, I'd heard of it - but I was a very widely read kid, which is probably where I came across it.

Australian here too, first time since heard it was when Michael Jackson used it in a song.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but the brouhaha over kik was over npm's module name dispute policy. So, it seems like the operative questions are 1) How likely is X to create an npm package? and 2) If a node.js developer types `npm install X`, are they more likely to expect X's package, or my package? For the parent commenter, 1 is a definite no, and 2 is kinda wishy-washy.

I don't think anyone on earth installs a package with npm without specifically knowing what they are installing. This is in contrast to users going to foo.com expecting to find foo corps website. Going to foo.com is a very serviceable strategy for getting foo corps website and if it's not you have invested 2 seconds and risked nothing. Contrast that with npm unless you specifically know the package by name getting fo…

But when you saw the headlines, "Internet broken due to Kik package dispute" it is reasonable to expect confusion with the trademarked company and software.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#86

I'm not a native speaker, I had no idea what "kike" means in english before reading this issue. I intended the word only in the sense "to suffer the same fate as the azer/kik project". I renamed the project, my apologies to anyone who could have been offended by my mistake.

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Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#87
post #58

Without wishing to otherwise get involved at all, I'd like to say that as an Australian native english speaker, I have never heard of the word "kike" or that it is apparently a slur against jews. Why would anyone else in the world know that? I have nothing against jews, but it pisses me off that some local slang is elevated into a global "character sequence you can't use", so long as that slang originates in NYC. Ima…

Everyone in the U.S. knows this word. The U.S. is a majority of native English speakers.

Native English speakers are a minority among all English speakers.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#88

I'm not a native speaker, I had no idea what "kike" means in english before reading this issue. I intended the word only in the sense "to suffer the same fate as the azer/kik project". I renamed the project, my apologies to anyone who could have been offended by my mistake.

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Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone in the U.S. knows this word. The U.S. is a majority of native English speakers.

Native English speakers are a minority among all English speakers.

True, but not if you weight by impact/influence on what's considered standard English, globally.

Probably someday that will be the case, but it isn't yet -- the US still has an outsize influence.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#90
post #41

Am I parsing it incorrectly in my head, or does this project have a blatantly antisemitic name?

Seriously? I really don't think the author of this module sat down and thought, "hrm... how can I blatantly offend people" when they came up with the name. Wouldn't you rather believe that this person didn't maliciously name this thing and get on with your day? Not everyone on earth is a horrible person.

That's why I prefaced my remark by asking if it was my mistake. I'm not familiar with the verb "kik", but I am aware of the slur. I'll happily believe that no offense was meant, but I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out what I consider a pretty poor naming choice.
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