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#41

Am I parsing it incorrectly in my head, or does this project have a blatantly antisemitic name?

Seriously? I really don't think the author of this module sat down and thought, "hrm... how can I blatantly offend people" when they came up with the name.

Wouldn't you rather believe that this person didn't maliciously name this thing and get on with your day? Not everyone on earth is a horrible person.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

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post #41

Am I parsing it incorrectly in my head, or does this project have a blatantly antisemitic name?

Seriously? I really don't think the author of this module sat down and thought, "hrm... how can I blatantly offend people" when they came up with the name. Wouldn't you rather believe that this person didn't maliciously name this thing and get on with your day? Not everyone on earth is a horrible person.

Yeah, I'm thinking you don't have to live with 4chan and Twitter tolerating and increasingly normalizing anonymous bigots calling your ethnic group, which has been the target of genocide before, the equivalent of a nigger.

Do you have any idea how telling me to 'smile a little' about this comes across?

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#43
post #33

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You are reading correctly. The project name doesn't follow English inflection rules. Just as e.g. "tap" becomes "tapped", "kik" should become "kikked". "Kiked" is an inflection of "kike", just as "liked" is an inflection of "like" and "taped" is an inflection of "tape". This mistake is easy to make, since there aren't any English verbs spelled ending "ik"; words with this sound are instead spelled ending "ick".

The "Kiked" should probably be read as "Kik'ed" and in any regards, "Kikked" would be wrong. Kik is an entity and not a word in itself here. Try replacing it with "IBM'ed", "Microsoft'ed", "Facebook'ed" etc. The last one is the closest one, you wouldn't be saying "Facebookked". As a side-note, I in no way think the author made any association with the word kike. Even though I know the word, I didn't jump to that conc…

Also, booked is the correct past tense anyway, so Facebookked is a bad example.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#44

Am I parsing it incorrectly in my head, or does this project have a blatantly antisemitic name?

Me too. I think the owner of this project needs to have a serious think about the name, ironically.

For me the irony comes from the library being a name checker for trademarked words that itself could have benefited from some name checking itself.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#46
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? I really don't think the author of this module sat down and thought, "hrm... how can I blatantly offend people" when they came up with the name. Wouldn't you rather believe that this person didn't maliciously name this thing and get on with your day? Not everyone on earth is a horrible person.

Yeah, I'm thinking you don't have to live with 4chan and Twitter tolerating and increasingly normalizing anonymous bigots calling your ethnic group, which has been the target of genocide before, the equivalent of a nigger. Do you have any idea how telling me to 'smile a little' about this comes across?

It's an unfortunate naming choice, it's obvious the author didn't intend for it to happen given the context of the situation. Nobody is trying to use the ethnic slur against you in this situation, and you are, quite frankly, overreacting to the whole thing.

A lot of horrible things have happened to Jewish people in the past, yes, but that doesn't give you the right to leap down someone's throat for what looks to be a very honest mistake.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#48
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You are parsing it incorrectly. Can I be 'kik'-ed. Kik being the operative word here not the slur to which you refer.

Perhaps my background makes me a little more attuned to this particular word, but 'kike' practically leapt off the page to me. In English, words ending in a single short vowel followed by a single consonant double the consonant before adding '-ed' to form the past tense. That's the grammatical rule. I still can't tell if this project is by someone with bad grammar or some 4chan-bred bigot trying to make a double ente…

Never attribute to 4chan that which could adequately be explained by bad grammar.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#49

Am I parsing it incorrectly in my head, or does this project have a blatantly antisemitic name?

You are reading correctly. The project name doesn't follow English inflection rules. Just as e.g. "tap" becomes "tapped", "kik" should become "kikked". "Kiked" is an inflection of "kike", just as "liked" is an inflection of "like" and "taped" is an inflection of "tape". This mistake is easy to make, since there aren't any English verbs spelled ending "ik"; words with this sound are instead spelled ending "ick".

I'm not a native English speaker but to me, "kik'd" would feel more correct, maybe because it makes it clearer that kik is not a normal verb.

In any case, I think that it's fair to inform the author but feeling offended seems unnecessary. I had certainly never heard this word before and judging from the other threads here, neither had several native English speakers. To think that it was done on purpose seems really far fetched to me.

Re: Show HN: Kikked – check if any of your NPM repos is trademarked

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm thinking you don't have to live with 4chan and Twitter tolerating and increasingly normalizing anonymous bigots calling your ethnic group, which has been the target of genocide before, the equivalent of a nigger. Do you have any idea how telling me to 'smile a little' about this comes across?

It's an unfortunate naming choice, it's obvious the author didn't intend for it to happen given the context of the situation. Nobody is trying to use the ethnic slur against you in this situation, and you are, quite frankly, overreacting to the whole thing. A lot of horrible things have happened to Jewish people in the past, yes, but that doesn't give you the right to leap down someone's throat for what looks to be a…

The author's intentions are not remotely obvious. It just as easily could be an anti-Semitic double entendre referring to both the kik situation and Jews, and I'm still not at all certain HN isn't being deliberately trolled with this submission.

Determining how I respond to ethnic slurs against me or my people really isn't up to you, either.

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