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Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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Re: Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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"We anticipate participation from diverse movements such as Occupy, the Tea Party, Black Lives Matter, and the movements for immigrant rights, drug policy reform, peace and justice, gun rights, and others.”

Alright, so i’ll be the first to say this. Colleges, and the mentioned movements, ESPECIALLY BLM, have a sick, warped sense of what the word “free expression” means.

If you truly want to implement the 5 principles you mentioned, and you want support from rational people, you can’t be looking for the backing of organisations that are currently working hard to stifle them.

I’m all for what you’re saying, but you seem to be turning towards people who push for more government control, and regulation. So, sorry, but so far you look like a threat to freedom more than anything else.

Re: Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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I wish the EFF would explain more clearly why digital rights for users are important. Technology in the hands of the few and powerful can lead to authoritarianism, which is part of what makes their work so important. Right now their site only explains that digital rights promote human freedoms. Maybe they don't want to sound too "radical," but for people looking to donate, shouldn't they explain why better privacy, free expression, and digital rights laws are valuable? Love their work though!

Re: Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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post #5

"We anticipate participation from diverse movements such as Occupy, the Tea Party, Black Lives Matter, and the movements for immigrant rights, drug policy reform, peace and justice, gun rights, and others.” Alright, so i’ll be the first to say this. Colleges, and the mentioned movements, ESPECIALLY BLM, have a sick, warped sense of what the word “free expression” means. If you truly want to implement the 5 principles…

I was fully expecting someone in HN to get very upset about Black Lives Matter. I don't know much about them, but judging from their Wikipedia entry, as a whole the movement seems to be doing much more good than harm.

It's also a pretty diverse group, and some have used the BLM monicker while being denounced by other members of BLM. So don't paint them all with the same brush. It's like saying that you're against John Stuart Mill or Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz because you dislike feminism[1]. It will be interesting to see which part of BLM the EFA considers to be representative.

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[1] Or absolutely all of these people:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_feminists

Re: Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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post #5

"We anticipate participation from diverse movements such as Occupy, the Tea Party, Black Lives Matter, and the movements for immigrant rights, drug policy reform, peace and justice, gun rights, and others.” Alright, so i’ll be the first to say this. Colleges, and the mentioned movements, ESPECIALLY BLM, have a sick, warped sense of what the word “free expression” means. If you truly want to implement the 5 principles…

When I see something like this posted on the Internet I am reminded of a quote attributed to Socrates by Plato:

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

Every older generation tend to view the younger generation as a problem.

Re: Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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post #5

"We anticipate participation from diverse movements such as Occupy, the Tea Party, Black Lives Matter, and the movements for immigrant rights, drug policy reform, peace and justice, gun rights, and others.” Alright, so i’ll be the first to say this. Colleges, and the mentioned movements, ESPECIALLY BLM, have a sick, warped sense of what the word “free expression” means. If you truly want to implement the 5 principles…

The EFF is a liberal lobby. I'm very concerned they are being regarded as the gatekeepers of our freedom, be it online or offline.

Re: Launching the Electronic Frontier Alliance

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post #7
post #5

"We anticipate participation from diverse movements such as Occupy, the Tea Party, Black Lives Matter, and the movements for immigrant rights, drug policy reform, peace and justice, gun rights, and others.” Alright, so i’ll be the first to say this. Colleges, and the mentioned movements, ESPECIALLY BLM, have a sick, warped sense of what the word “free expression” means. If you truly want to implement the 5 principles…

I was fully expecting someone in HN to get very upset about Black Lives Matter. I don't know much about them, but judging from their Wikipedia entry, as a whole the movement seems to be doing much more good than harm. It's also a pretty diverse group, and some have used the BLM monicker while being denounced by other members of BLM. So don't paint them all with the same brush. It's like saying that you're against Joh…

>It's like saying that you're against John Stuart Mill or Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz because you dislike feminism[1].

I don't see why you'd have to be against a person just because they support a different point of view on some specific issue.

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