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Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by mcpherrinm »

cb18 wrote: post #34

How do they define which aspects of the captured image to extract, model, and transmit? If they were just modeling the humans, I could seeing using motion detection, or infrared perhaps, but they seem to have also extracted and modeled the little girl's toys. So i'm curious what method they use to extract just specific bits of the image captured in the holodeck. Perhaps this is answered in one of their papers. If any…

The easiest thing is probably to "calibrate" the scene with nobody in it, since the cameras appear to be fixed.

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Post by regularfry »

dominotw wrote: post #25
hanniabu wrote: post #2

I was waiting for this, knew it was only a matter of time before Microsoft came out with something like this since it's right in their field of office products. Hopefully this is the catalyst needed to create better work/life balance and lower the barrier for remote work and make it just as productive as being present in the office.

For remote work, what are the advantages of this over a good video conferencing/screen sharing type of setup.

Better visibility of non-verbal interaction cues. Also, not sharing screen real-estate between the person you're talking to and the work you're collaborating on.

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Post by stinos »

LarryMade2 wrote: post #9

Nice "demo"... Microsoft lately seems to be really good at being a "proof of concept developer." Which is cool and all that, but then people wait and forget why it was so cool. As a comparison, Apple holds back their tech till it is polished and ready for market, so people are excited and start literally lining up to get whatever it is... And when they get it for the most part they aren’t disappointed, because it is…

Microsoft lately seems to be really good at being a "proof of concept developer."

AFAIK not really just lately: the research department has been going strong for tens of years, coming up with stuff like this which is on the edge of what currently available tech can do. It's maybe just lately it gets more press/HN coverage than 20 or so years ago.

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Post by stinos »

frik wrote: post #58
LarryMade2 wrote: post #9

Nice "demo"... Microsoft lately seems to be really good at being a "proof of concept developer." Which is cool and all that, but then people wait and forget why it was so cool. As a comparison, Apple holds back their tech till it is polished and ready for market, so people are excited and start literally lining up to get whatever it is... And when they get it for the most part they aren’t disappointed, because it is…

Others like Apple actually deliver their products, and they work exactly like advertised. Microsoft is well known for announcing and promising products/vapourware years in advance. Like the HoloLens Minecraft demonstration at E3 2015. What a betray to the public eye it was. HoloLens has for technical reasons a very narrow field of view, the 3D content is only visible in a small area of the view, and cannot deliver th…

Others like Apple actually deliver their products, and they work exactly like advertised

Check the other comments: it's not really false what you say, more like giving a twist to reality or comparing apples to oranges. This is about the Microsoft research department, not about their product delivery line. And the latter is what you meant when saying Apple - which indeed does deliver properly working products. Just like, say, Microsoft delivers keyboars or mice or Visual Studio or Surface.

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Post by TheLogothete »

bloaf wrote: post #54
deelowe wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might as well say that this will eventually be transporter or holodeck. The best we can assume at this point is that they'll reduce this down to something like a pair of large sunglasses, but even that's a bit optimistic without some revolutionary changes in optics.

We'll just replace our eyeballs.

We'll just replace our heads.

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Post by kuma4 »

cldellow wrote: post #44
overgryphon wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a demo from Microsoft Research, which does research into new areas, not a product group.

This is a point worth repeating. Does Apple even publish its research? I've benefitted from many papers published by Microsoft and Google's research departments, either directly through learning something I can apply myself, or indirectly through processes that end up in open source technology. Does Apple even publish research? Some Googling failed to turn up anything. In fact, I found an HBR paper that said Apple sp…

Steve Jobs abandoned Apple Advanced Technology Group. Apple isn't interested int technology researches.

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Post by MrrVlad »

elisee wrote: post #11
deckar01 wrote: post #4

I don't understand why they need to pretend to support features they haven't developed. It makes something that is obviously advanced feel cheaper and fake in some way. The daughter is obviously a recording, but they call it "live", say she can't hear him, then he gives her audio queues. Who is editing this and what are they thinking?

He says "you can only hear me but you can't see me" (since she isn't wearing a hololens). I think it is actually happening live between him and her.

She also glances a few times at something (a screen?) at the top right corner.

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Post by [deleted] »

jader201 wrote: post #47
hanniabu wrote: post #2

I was waiting for this, knew it was only a matter of time before Microsoft came out with something like this since it's right in their field of office products. Hopefully this is the catalyst needed to create better work/life balance and lower the barrier for remote work and make it just as productive as being present in the office.

But only if they manage to drastically reduce/eliminate the latency that's present with video conferencing. It gets us one step closer by allowing virtual eye contact, but if the latency is still there, it will still be subpar to in-person interactions. The other thing that wasn't so evident by this video is that everyone you were taking to would have to be wearing Hololenses, so it will still be a bit awkward. Not t…

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Post by ksec »

Give them another 4 years time to perfect their technology, that is 2020, another 5 years again to iterate and adoption. I can see in 10 years time this will have massive impact to office work. Less Business trip to travel.

I dont think it will replace business travel. But there will be a lot less of it. And it is also dependent on the countries broadband quality. ( May be in the future the Job requirement will write you need 100Mbps broadband + low latency results. )

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