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Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by blisse »

mpnordland wrote: post #19

I realize that I'll probably never get something like this, but dang, that was cool.There seemed to be a distinct quality difference in the realtime created models, and the prerecorded models. The realtime ones had issues, where as the prerecorded ones (like the girl with the dog) were smooth and nice. I definitely think that if this goes mainstream, higher quality models will be generated in most cases and only use…

Honestly, given how rapidly technology is advancing, I think that it's not unreasonable to expect a consumer-friendly version of this within 10-20 years. It's happening!

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by blisse »

sigmar wrote: post #5

Pretty cool, but my first thought is: how authentic will communication be when "holoporting" to each other if you both have those big hololens mounted on your head? It will be hard to pick up on each other's facial expressions and impossible to look into each other's eyes.

I think facial expression is already possible, probably not nuanced enough, but that's just dependent on the resolution of the cameras and holograms.

Getting eye-level detail will be a pain because of the mask, but the real fun is going to happen when this can all be done with just a pair of glasses (and hopefully contact lenses in the far future).

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by ChicagoDave »

blisse wrote: post #41
mpnordland wrote: post #19

I realize that I'll probably never get something like this, but dang, that was cool.There seemed to be a distinct quality difference in the realtime created models, and the prerecorded models. The realtime ones had issues, where as the prerecorded ones (like the girl with the dog) were smooth and nice. I definitely think that if this goes mainstream, higher quality models will be generated in most cases and only use…

Honestly, given how rapidly technology is advancing, I think that it's not unreasonable to expect a consumer-friendly version of this within 10-20 years. It's happening!

Five years.

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by cldellow »

overgryphon wrote: post #17
LarryMade2 wrote: post #9

Nice "demo"... Microsoft lately seems to be really good at being a "proof of concept developer." Which is cool and all that, but then people wait and forget why it was so cool. As a comparison, Apple holds back their tech till it is polished and ready for market, so people are excited and start literally lining up to get whatever it is... And when they get it for the most part they aren’t disappointed, because it is…

This is a demo from Microsoft Research, which does research into new areas, not a product group.

This is a point worth repeating. Does Apple even publish its research? I've benefitted from many papers published by Microsoft and Google's research departments, either directly through learning something I can apply myself, or indirectly through processes that end up in open source technology.

Does Apple even publish research? Some Googling failed to turn up anything. In fact, I found an HBR paper that said Apple specifically does not publish its research.

IMO, this makes Apple much less praiseworthy than Microsoft/Google/Facebook.

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by Heliosmaster »

This is not cool just for work. I can definitely see myself using it to feel closer to my family, a few thousands miles away.

Also, this is research. Too many of these comments are bashing it, mostly because it comes from MS I guess. We can still hate their products, but the research is really useful.

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by Heliosmaster »

This is not cool just for work. I can definitely see to feel closer to my family, a few thousands miles away.

Also, this is research. Too many of these comments are bashing it, mostly because it comes from MS I guess. We can still hate their products, but the research is really useful.

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by jader201 »

hanniabu wrote: post #2

I was waiting for this, knew it was only a matter of time before Microsoft came out with something like this since it's right in their field of office products. Hopefully this is the catalyst needed to create better work/life balance and lower the barrier for remote work and make it just as productive as being present in the office.

But only if they manage to drastically reduce/eliminate the latency that's present with video conferencing.

It gets us one step closer by allowing virtual eye contact, but if the latency is still there, it will still be subpar to in-person interactions.

The other thing that wasn't so evident by this video is that everyone you were taking to would have to be wearing Hololenses, so it will still be a bit awkward.

Not trying to be a downer, just that as a remote worker, I think about all of these things that make remote interactions hard.

Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by [deleted] »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #40
hoodoof wrote: post #37

Microsoft seems to be fiddling around in research while Sony runs away with the Virtual Reality cup.

As a point of clarification, this is Augmented Reality, which is actually quite different than Virtual Reality in practice and scale. So it's an apples to bananas comparison.

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Re: Microsoft demos 'holoportation' 3D presence tech with HoloLens

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Post by sinxoveretothex »

jader201 wrote: post #47
hanniabu wrote: post #2

I was waiting for this, knew it was only a matter of time before Microsoft came out with something like this since it's right in their field of office products. Hopefully this is the catalyst needed to create better work/life balance and lower the barrier for remote work and make it just as productive as being present in the office.

But only if they manage to drastically reduce/eliminate the latency that's present with video conferencing. It gets us one step closer by allowing virtual eye contact, but if the latency is still there, it will still be subpar to in-person interactions. The other thing that wasn't so evident by this video is that everyone you were taking to would have to be wearing Hololenses, so it will still be a bit awkward. Not t…

> The other thing that wasn't so evident by this video is that everyone you were taking to would have to be wearing Hololenses, so it will still be a bit awkward.

I remember seeing the guy who invented the selfie stick present it to Canada's Dragon's Den: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw7YbcoCkbs. My reaction was: this is ridiculous and stupid. Nobody will ever use that let alone buy it.

Let's just say I was slightly wrong.

Not only that, but people go crazy over VR. This will take off, I'm sure.

https://quikpod.com/quik-pod-selfie-stick-cbc-dragons-den-20...

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