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Nobody in Japan owns a file?
No one will buy a bike without a number.
The auto manufacturers (and for that matter all the "IoT" creators) couldn't give two shits about protecting consumers. Building security into this stuff is trivial and a responsibility.
How would you prevent this type of attack while retaining the keyless start and entry feature? (just curious)
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Cool. What's it like having a 25 year old car? Why'd you choose to stick with it as opposed to getting something newer?
My car is about 20 years old. In my country it's far more normal to buy a cheap car outright (say 2.5k USD) rather than get a lease or a loan for a new car (say 25k USD). There's nothing wrong with it, i'm not sure why i'd want a newer one.
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Or do what the Japanese do: every bike has a serial number etched into the frame and is registered to you (similar to a car). If your bike is ever stolen, the police can trivially find it by the serial number and return it.
Every car has a serial number in several places, in theory it should be trivial to find a stolen one, yet plenty of cars are stolen each yer. Clearly this does not solve the problem.
It's no wonder they don't want to import a bunch of foreigners. I can just imagine how their society would be completely ruined if they allowed millions of Americans to move in. Bike theft would be the least of their problems.
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Not only this but many cars of the same make had very little variation in their keys meaning that on a dealer lot or even a very busy mall there was a chance you could unlock or start; rarely both; a car other than your own. Personally I had seen this twice in action. First was back in the early nineties I could unlock my friends Escort GT with my key and he could unlock my EXP. Neither could start it. Now my Aunt an…
As I recall, we discovered back in the day that my dads ford key would lock almost any ford he came across, but not unlock them.
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No one will buy a bike without a number.
This is another example of something that works great in Japan and wouldn't work at all elsewhere. In other countries (esp. anywhere in the Americas), this would never work, because there's no shortage of someone willing to buy something that may be stolen.
Car maker's take note: That list is now a list of cars I will not buy. Many other consumers probably feel the same.
Why is this a deal breaker for you, but windows aren't? Someone can break into any car through a window using a rock.
2) breaking a window creates noise, usually.
3) it still takes time to start the car after you break into it. not so when you hack the radio.
all in all, this hack turns something that would take minutes into something that takes a couple of seconds and leaves the vehicle intact, i.e. beyond suspicion.
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Wow, that's an interesting hack. I can't think of any workarounds either. EDIT: As pointed out in a comment elsewhere in this thread: > The simplest defeat is to require the key ping round trip to complete in N microseconds, where N is sufficiently low. Researchers have demostrated that this is a practical solution.
> Wow, that's an interesting hack. I can't think of any workarounds either. Don't Have Keyless Entry. It's getting to the point where I don't think I'll ever buy a car made after the early 2010s.
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When I was in college, like many struggling students, I didn't have much money, my means of transportation was a 3 speed Stermy-Archer 3 speed bike that had the best security system ever, I never locked it. It had something wrong with the 3 speed and if you stood up on the pedals it would slip and the rider would end up with their taint on the center bar, ouch. It was fine if you were not in a hurry and took your tim…
The classic reason for that fault in an old 3-speed SA is minor misadjustment of the gear change cable. The gear lever basically pulls a chain further and further out of the hub, going from 3 at minimum pull to 2 to 1. Unfortunately there's a "neutral" between 3 and 2, so the cable needs to be carefully adjusted so that the 3/2/1 positions of the lever give you all three gears and avoid the neutral section. This desi…
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When I was in college, like many struggling students, I didn't have much money, my means of transportation was a 3 speed Stermy-Archer 3 speed bike that had the best security system ever, I never locked it. It had something wrong with the 3 speed and if you stood up on the pedals it would slip and the rider would end up with their taint on the center bar, ouch. It was fine if you were not in a hurry and took your tim…
You must have had a nice grin seeing that. I also read reverse psychology tricks on biking boards such as not locking the bike, which convey a sense that the owner is not far / in sight and scare most robbers. Requires balls.