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Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
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Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
When middle class families move out it's called *-flight. When poor families move out, it's called gentrification. Both are due to economics, some precipitated, not so much by individual bigotry but rather by self interest (the former wanting to preserve value individually in anticipation of devaluation of property, the latter get pushed out due to economics whereby its not viable to remain in a valuating neighborhoo…
I think the difference is choice. White flight is white folks choosing to move out of an area. Gentrification is white folks choosing to move in to an area. No-one else gets a choice. Only the white folks.
Wealthy white folks that is. Whites are more than half the population. Not surprising of wealthy pop many would be white. Plenty of poor ones.
And this is SF the gentrfiers are white and Asian
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#113> Evan Snow, a thirtysomething “user experience design professional”..., who had moved to the neighbourhood about six months earlier (and who has since departed for a more suburban environment) > Snow never seemed to recognise that his out-of-control dog was the aggressor: “So Luna was, I think, looking to move around the benches or behind me to run up happily to get a chip from Mr Nieto. Mr Nieto became further – wh…
This is a person Rebecca Solnit chose to single out, carefully juxtaposing reports of his (incredibly obnoxious) behavior against Nieto's shooting, to which, even by Solnit's account (read carefully), he was not a party.
I don't want to get drinks with this character in Solnit's story, either. But I'm not sure we should applaud the tactic of summoning up and focusing outrage on people like this.
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure the OP was trying to state that shooting to kill shouldn't be the normal thing police do.
There is no such thing as shooting to not kill. Officers are (correctly) trained that if they are in a situation which warrants them shooting, they should use all of the bullets currently loaded into their gun. The issue is that in the US, officers seem to come to the conclusion that killing the person is warranted way too quickly.
I meant using their firearm as their first response before even knowing what the situation is. Tamir Rice was shot by police before the car even finished coming to a stop at the scene.
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure the OP was trying to state that shooting to kill shouldn't be the normal thing police do.
There is no such thing as shooting to not kill. Officers are (correctly) trained that if they are in a situation which warrants them shooting, they should use all of the bullets currently loaded into their gun. The issue is that in the US, officers seem to come to the conclusion that killing the person is warranted way too quickly.
Source?
This source [1] [2], a police detective with 26 years of experience, contradicts it directly:
"Officers are told to shoot until the threat is neutralized, down, and no longer a threat to themselves or the public. They are not trained to empty the magazine into a target."
[1] http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/08/19/police-protocol-your-q...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Brooks_%28journalist%29
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
DC technically has rent control, but there are a variety of loopholes and it does not apply in most cases.
What are the loopholes? Is it like Section 8? They fell in the statement because it was listed on the Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_control_in_the_United_Sta... Thank you for the heads up.
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http://dhcd.dc.gov/service/rent-control
The most common exemptions from rent control are for rental units that are:
- Federally or District-subsidized
- Built after 1975
- Owned by a natural person (i.e., not a corporation) who owns no more than four rental units in the District
- Vacant when the Act took effect
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To be clear, DC has an extremely tenant friendly set of laws. But the rent control is basically just a legacy of an earlier era.
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure the OP was trying to state that shooting to kill shouldn't be the normal thing police do.
There is no such thing as shooting to not kill. Officers are (correctly) trained that if they are in a situation which warrants them shooting, they should use all of the bullets currently loaded into their gun. The issue is that in the US, officers seem to come to the conclusion that killing the person is warranted way too quickly.
Obviously then the US police officers are trained badly.
For 2012 the stats for the german police are: 36 bullets fired at humans, 20 injured, 8 dead. 54 bullets fired as warning shots. So it's possible to incapacitate. Stats for other european countries are similar.
Firing 40 bullets at a single human, some of them after the suspect has been hit multiple times and is on the ground (and still missing the majority of shots) seems excessive.
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#118There's a lot left out in Solnit's article, see: http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/alex-nieto-w...
When reading anything on The Guardian it's important to ask what they aren't telling you, because it's almost certain that they are omitting many very salient details out in order to fit the story into their own narrative. If you knew that Nieto had other problems, you likely wouldn't come away from the Guardian article believing that he was executed for being Hispanic.
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#119There's a lot left out in Solnit's article, see: http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/alex-nieto-w...
When reading anything on The Guardian it's important to ask what they aren't telling you, because it's almost certain that they are omitting many very salient details out in order to fit the story into their own narrative. If you knew that Nieto had other problems, you likely wouldn't come away from the Guardian article believing that he was executed for being Hispanic.
Re: Death by gentrification: the killing that shamed San Francisco
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
When middle class families move out it's called *-flight. When poor families move out, it's called gentrification. Both are due to economics, some precipitated, not so much by individual bigotry but rather by self interest (the former wanting to preserve value individually in anticipation of devaluation of property, the latter get pushed out due to economics whereby its not viable to remain in a valuating neighborhoo…
I think the difference is choice. White flight is white folks choosing to move out of an area. Gentrification is white folks choosing to move in to an area. No-one else gets a choice. Only the white folks.
Is there a word for people refusing to move? Because then every possible housing decision by a white person could be framed as a terrible thing.