I need a SOAP binding for this, because reasons.
Left-pad as a service
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Re: Left-pad as a service
#32Hahaha - isn't it hysterical how everyone using npm for small reusable code pieces! Aren't they morons! How stupid of people to trust their package manager to be consistent and correct and return packages they were expecting. How stupid of people to reuse small often used functions that only do one thing well. How does everyone taking the piss intend to protect themselves from this in their OS package manager, or PPM…
I'm with Knuth here, a lot of the arguments for discrete function units sound like premature optimization. In the end, you won't get the equivalent of the MODULA-3 standard library or something equally well-defined, but PHP4's mudball of functions.
All this because a few bytes of functions would ruin your experience and/or dead code eliminiation isn't part of your pipeline.
Re: Left-pad as a service
#33Hahaha - isn't it hysterical how everyone using npm for small reusable code pieces! Aren't they morons! How stupid of people to trust their package manager to be consistent and correct and return packages they were expecting. How stupid of people to reuse small often used functions that only do one thing well. How does everyone taking the piss intend to protect themselves from this in their OS package manager, or PPM…
I think it's less smugness (there certainly is some) and more disbelief / unfamiliarity. JS isn't the first language without great libraries (C's stdlib, `math.h`, `string.h` are good but don't have string padding functions, for example) so there's precedence going back a very long way. Most solutions involve coming up with a utilities library that contains the basic things (like a math library, or a strings library)…
sprintf and friends will pad strings for you, no?
printf("%20s\n", "Hello");
Re: Left-pad as a service
#34I don't understand why this community has to have a weekly cycle of bashing different programming communities. Every week there's a new drama thread bashing Java devs, Go devs, Javascript devs etc. The thing that I come to this community for every week is to read about new developments in our industry, if you don't come here for that then what are you coming here for? And wasn't it just a few months ago people were p…
It's sad, really. I've been coding for roughly 11 years, since I was 14 or so, and have always noticed the constant pissing matches between programmer groups. It's easy to fall into them, because when you do something a certain way for so long, another way looks so foreign and terrible. I tried to make an effort to always stay out of those arguments, but absolutely fell in here and there.
Lately I've stopped coding for work and moved into a PM++ position as I build up a small agency on my own, and it has been refreshing. I build little meteor apps for fun in my free time (omg meter doesn't scale noob lol) and can keep my blinders on to what the outside world thinks, and my devs can continue to do what they are comfortable with.
Re: Left-pad as a service
#35Hahaha - isn't it hysterical how everyone using npm for small reusable code pieces! Aren't they morons! How stupid of people to trust their package manager to be consistent and correct and return packages they were expecting. How stupid of people to reuse small often used functions that only do one thing well. How does everyone taking the piss intend to protect themselves from this in their OS package manager, or PPM…
I think it's less smugness (there certainly is some) and more disbelief / unfamiliarity. JS isn't the first language without great libraries (C's stdlib, `math.h`, `string.h` are good but don't have string padding functions, for example) so there's precedence going back a very long way. Most solutions involve coming up with a utilities library that contains the basic things (like a math library, or a strings library)…
Even the Java ecosystem managed to get their crap together and make the excellent Apache Commons library collection to deal with a similar situation (anaemic to useless standard library). C++ has STL and Boost.
Only the PHP and JS communities seem to think that not having a solidly designed "base" library is fine (and even PHP seems to be getting better at it with 7).
Re: Left-pad as a service
#36This is really exciting!!! I was a bit disappointed that the right-pad will be out only in 2017. I am looking forward to that release because there is a high demand for it now. What kind of load balancing is being used on the back-end? I called leftpad(str, ch, len) with the length I needed and noticed that is not very scalable because it is blocking. A better approach I would recommend to those using it is to call t…
Best practice for performance for large left-pad jobs is to call the service recursively using mapreduce. Remember that left-pad(str,pad,n) is equal to left-pad(left-pad(str,pad,n/2),left-pad("",pad,n/2),n). This should run in logarithmic time and is highly parallelizable.
If you don't like the "" magic string in there you could replace it with a call to left-pad(null, null,0).
Re: Left-pad as a service
#37Hahaha - isn't it hysterical how everyone using npm for small reusable code pieces! Aren't they morons! How stupid of people to trust their package manager to be consistent and correct and return packages they were expecting. How stupid of people to reuse small often used functions that only do one thing well. How does everyone taking the piss intend to protect themselves from this in their OS package manager, or PPM…
>How does everyone taking the piss intend to protect themselves from this in their OS package manager, or PPM or composer or pip? By signing packages and not allowing literally anybody to re-upload a brand new package that does something completely different under the name of an existing, widely-used package. There's not much excuse for that in any respectable package manager.
Okay so have you checked all of the apt repos you've added to sources over the years or has one of the ppa's changed to something malicious?
Re: Left-pad as a service
#38I don't understand why this community has to have a weekly cycle of bashing different programming communities. Every week there's a new drama thread bashing Java devs, Go devs, Javascript devs etc. The thing that I come to this community for every week is to read about new developments in our industry, if you don't come here for that then what are you coming here for? And wasn't it just a few months ago people were p…
its called self-regulation.
Each community has its own quirks and extremes as seen by everyone else. Without the bashing, they would become even more extreme. At least after this a lot of devs will think twice about making "micro-modules".
Re: Left-pad as a service
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use a lot of micro modules. And I think micro modules are a good idea. But this whole thing is freaking funny. You gotta acknowledge that.
I dunno; I think it's a balancing act between dependencies and code reuse. I think npm needs to not let people unpublish stuff without thought - that is where the problem is and I'm sure they are thinking about a solution to this. I think a lot of this is implying "don't use micro packages on your package manager, copy and paste code in helpers.js FTW". I've seen people advocating this as if it's a better solution th…
Well, I don't think we can trust NPM on being consistent. They gave away this guy's package to a corp, despite his protest just because they felt like it. I'm not arguing if it was the correct decision or not, it's just an arbitrary decision based on isaac's mood that day.
It's best to treat NPM as mutable and don't depend on it. For example, I check in node_modules to git, even though everyone says no, use shrinkwrap! Yeah, that would definately help here.
NPM is to blame here and people are right to make fun of the entire ecosystem around it. Also, It's just easy and funny.
Noone will start copying stuff around just because of this I believe. The micromodule ecosystem emerged because it works for people apparently. Devs will find ways to make it work better.
Re: Left-pad as a service
#40I don't understand why this community has to have a weekly cycle of bashing different programming communities. Every week there's a new drama thread bashing Java devs, Go devs, Javascript devs etc. The thing that I come to this community for every week is to read about new developments in our industry, if you don't come here for that then what are you coming here for? And wasn't it just a few months ago people were p…
its called self-regulation. Each community has its own quirks and extremes as seen by everyone else. Without the bashing, they would become even more extreme. At least after this a lot of devs will think twice about making "micro-modules".
If that were true java would have started dying a few years ago, javascript frameworks wouldn't pop up every week, and most people would use shell scripts instead of build tools. This is exactly the kind of flame war stuff the guidelines seem to have tried to stop.