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Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

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Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#31
Smartwatches always seemed like a fad to me. Part of the point with smartphones, at least to me, is to get rid of the watch. Smart or not. I used a watch throughout my youth and still remember when I got watch free. My wrists: free at last!

It's also puzzling me a bit because the appeal of watches among people where e.g Apple is aiming their watches for given the price range, tend not to be about supporting the latest WiFi standards or whatnot, but the value of classic, mechanical, precise, designs.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#32
post #12

I never understood the appeal of smart watches. Aren't they like tiny screens for the phone in your pocket? Why can't you just use the phone? I don't own a smart phone either, but I understand why you would want one. But with smart watches I'm at a complete loss. Can some smart watch owner please explain what they like about having the watch?

My wife and I would be very sad if Pebble went away. Even "crippled" with iOS it is a huge improvement.

* my phone is permanently on silent. Only my watch vibrates. I've found this to be much more professional.

* good step tracker

* I have an app that wakes me up between REM cycles. It's glorious!

* I always know the time, you know, like watch people do

* battery life and water proof -- I never take it off... One reason I am not interested in Apple Watch

* inability to interact/reply from watch is a PLUS. Watches make terrible input devices and there's less of a distraction

* I don't get distracted by my phone. If I have to grab my phone to check a notification I'm going to start opening apps out of habit and get lost in my phone.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#33
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If they could get rid of that horrible bezel design, more people would probably buy their product. I still can't understand how they shipped the round with that HUGE bezel. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! Did no one want to tell Eric that that was a bad idea or was he just stubborn in wanting to ship it like that? Also, what was up with their terrible website design? SEE THIS FOR CONTEXT --> https://web.archive.org/web/201…

Look at the useable screen estate on these: https://www.google.nl/search?q=casio+watches&source=lnms&tbm...

You're comparing it to the wrong product. I think their vision is spot on compared to other manufactures, I can't understand why Apple/Google don't pursue a watch with this type of screen and battery life.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is indeed a tiny screen for the phone in my pocket, which allows me to interact with my phone without necessarily having to take it out. Here's a few ways in which I use it: * In the kitchen to time cooking, to save getting half cooked food on my phone. * To have a quick glance at incoming notifications while walking. * To send quick replies to some of those notifications. * To check the time (its not only a smart…

> allows me to interact with my phone without necessarily having to take it out No offence, I'm sure you love this device, but to me this sounds like a wafer-thin marginal improvement that does not seem worth the effort required to keep yet ANOTHER device charged. Seriously, we're talking 2 seconds saved per look? If the argument is "it adds up", you're looking at you smart device (phone or watch) too much! With the…

I saw someone with a Pebble while we were catching up over drinks. An incoming call came in, and in just a glance he'd looked down at the watch & back up again, determining that it wasn't a call he needed to answer. With a smartphone, he would've had to reach into his pocket or backpack, press the hangup/voicemail button, put it back in his pocket or bag and apologize for the interruption to the conversation.

Of course, the ideal would be turn off the phone entirely, but I thought the Pebble was an elegant & respectful way to remain on-call with work, but also remain present with others. I can see how it would be useful to some people.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#36
post #4

If they could get rid of that horrible bezel design, more people would probably buy their product. I still can't understand how they shipped the round with that HUGE bezel. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! Did no one want to tell Eric that that was a bad idea or was he just stubborn in wanting to ship it like that? Also, what was up with their terrible website design? SEE THIS FOR CONTEXT --> https://web.archive.org/web/201…

Agreed. I really wanted to buy a Pebble, but that bezel is just atrocious. Really really bad. Especially the new round Pebble.

I truly can't understand what they're thinking. By this point there should be minimal bezel.

It is literally the only thing that turned me off buying one.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#37
A large part of the problem is that companies are focussing more on the watch aspect and less on the smart-wrist-mounted-device aspect of such things - for me, at least.

I have the feeling that there's a breakthrough "why didn't I think of that?" moment not too far in the distant future from now.

Until then.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#38
post #12

I never understood the appeal of smart watches. Aren't they like tiny screens for the phone in your pocket? Why can't you just use the phone? I don't own a smart phone either, but I understand why you would want one. But with smart watches I'm at a complete loss. Can some smart watch owner please explain what they like about having the watch?

Interactions with smartphones generally are of two types. Type one is full interactivity, you're using the phone to "do something" that takes at least a minute, maybe many minutes. Type two is reading a notification, which often takes a few seconds and often isn't immediately actionable. For reading notifications smart watches are perfect, because they reduce the friction of reading notifications significantly. You don't have to take your phone out of your pocket, you don't have to unlock it, you don't have to pull up the notification, you don't have to put your phone back. In situations where you are likely to receive a lot of notifications, which is increasingly common for many people these days, it makes it trivial to keep caught up on notifications even if you're busy doing other things. Granted, that's not always what you want (though it's also trivial to put a smart watch away or on mute) but when it is it can be anywhere from highly useful to a lifesaver.

For me, I started using a smart watch exclusively while working events where me and my team would coordinate using group chat. It wouldn't be uncommon to receive hundreds of messages per day, and sometimes dozens over a few minutes. The vast majority of which wouldn't require a response, but being caught up on what was going on would be critical. And often everyone would have their hands busy doing something else, so being able to just look at your watch to read a message is an amazing improvement.

I started wearing my pebble every day maybe two months ago just as an experiment (after spending something like 2 decades not wearing a watch). So far it's been a success. Being able to stay caught up on my messages with little friction is helpful, and surprisingly having a watch is actually useful fairly often as well.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is indeed a tiny screen for the phone in my pocket, which allows me to interact with my phone without necessarily having to take it out. Here's a few ways in which I use it: * In the kitchen to time cooking, to save getting half cooked food on my phone. * To have a quick glance at incoming notifications while walking. * To send quick replies to some of those notifications. * To check the time (its not only a smart…

> allows me to interact with my phone without necessarily having to take it out No offence, I'm sure you love this device, but to me this sounds like a wafer-thin marginal improvement that does not seem worth the effort required to keep yet ANOTHER device charged. Seriously, we're talking 2 seconds saved per look? If the argument is "it adds up", you're looking at you smart device (phone or watch) too much! With the…

If your life is significantly "digital", if you're interacting with people constantly via email, twitter, messaging apps, etc. then you're going to have a lot of notifications every day. And cutting out the "few seconds" of hassle to pull out your phone and check those notifications is a significant savings when multiplied over all those interactions throughout the day.

As for battery life, my pebble time steel lasts about a week between complaining about needing charging, which is at about the 35% range, where it could survive probably several days of use if you forgot to charge it. And if you have a smartphone it's probably not a significant inconvenience to add another cable to your charger one day a week overnight.

Re: Smartwatch firm Pebble lays off 25% of its staff

#40
post #12

I never understood the appeal of smart watches. Aren't they like tiny screens for the phone in your pocket? Why can't you just use the phone? I don't own a smart phone either, but I understand why you would want one. But with smart watches I'm at a complete loss. Can some smart watch owner please explain what they like about having the watch?

I bought an LG Urbana a while back, mostly because I wanted to get a watch after going most of my life. The fact that I could get a tech toy at the same time was good enough (+I wanted to eventually play around with Android Wear). The Urbana was the first watch that appealed to me aesthetically which is why I decided to buy it. Here's how I use it:

- Tell the time [often]

- Quickly browse mail and instant messages to see if it's worth getting the smartphone from the pocket. Side benefit: I use my cell in public a lot less and communicate more like a human being. Mostly just quick glance at the watch instead of being distracted into doing a bunch of stuff with the cell while sitting at a table with other peopel [often]

- Navigate via Google Maps while on foot in a city I'm not familiar with [occasionally]

- Maybe strange: Call notification via watch vibration = no missed calls (I missed some on standard cell vibration which is bad since I have my phone on vibrate 100% of the time)

It's only very simple stuff really but well worth it for me. Battery time is bad compared to Pebbles but I don't care because I take off the watch when I sleep and put it on the charger and it gets roughly two days without charging.

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