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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by chetanahuja »

threeseed wrote: post #259
criddell wrote: post #226

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> Google makes money selling you to advertisers. That's a little misleading. Google makes money showing you ads. It's not like I can call up Google and buy billyhoffman's data.

Governments can however. And with Apple they have a demonstrated history of protecting privacy at any cost. Google not so much.

Umm...

https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/userdatarequests/l...

http://images.apple.com/privacy/docs/government-information-...

There's not that much difference between what the two of them provide to governments as a response to legal requests.

Also note that Apple continues to operate in China while Google refused to cooperate with the government there and gave up huge business potential in that country.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by npunt »

lallysingh wrote: post #257
rubber_duck wrote: post #210

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>Maintenance is the work of the caring Agreed - which is why building mass market convinience stuff that require it is a bad idea - I have limited hours in a day - I do not want to spend any of them doing chores such as maintenence - I'd rather just buy a new working thing every x years and not care. Paying someone else to do the maintenence is nice in theory but finding someone reliable who won't ripp you off is too…

You know, there are reviews - on the internet - for mechanics and dealer service departments. And really, anyone able bodied can change oil.

In college I changed my oil and filters. It was a pain getting under a car a few inches off the ground, disposal was tricky, and I had to spend time cleaning up nasty gunk. I also could only do it when the car had not been driven recently.

The fundamental problem with changing your oil is that it involves oil. I saved $30, at the cost of an hour of my labor. As soon as I had a job, that equation didn't make sense.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by cbeach »

sjenson wrote: post #324

Nearly all of the comments here are missing the point of this blog post. The author likes Progressive Web apps, they are important to him. He's moving to Android because it supports the web better. That's it. This isn't iOS vs Android and it certainly isn't web vs native. Yes, the article is critical of native apps (and the app store) so I can see how you'd go there but it's a distraction. I see this article as an"I…

I guess if the original poster had chosen a better title for his HN submission, like "Android's good for progressive web apps" he wouldn't have started a flame war.

"I ditched iPhone for Android" is always going to rekindle the iPhone vs Android flame war. The original poster is to blame.

It's a pity Android fans always feel the need to compare everything they do to Apple's software and devices. I guess it's the imposter syndrome that comes with being 2nd to the marketplace?

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by rifung »

Jtsummers wrote: post #135
rifung wrote: post #116

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I assume it requires the internet so that people can't pirate it or make sure you're on the latest update? I can understand the frustration you're facing but also sympathize for people who are trying to make a living from selling apps.

It's antagonistic behavior towards users and unnecessary for most apps to be always-online. This is the difference between "I'd recommend this to friends" and "screw these guys". The primary reason I buy board and card game apps is to play offline when traveling, usually with other people, versus carting around 100lbs of games. If a simple hot seat version of your game requires an internet connection, you're doing it…

I agree that it's annoying because I like to play games on the bus where I also don't have internet. I'm just saying that in a way, this was caused by people pirating too much software.

I wish I had a solution which didn't require the apps to go online but I don't.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by justinlardinois »

Retric wrote: post #340
zerohp wrote: post #325

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CPUs don't have a billion parts. The unpackaged die is one carefully crafted solid.

Oceans have different parts and are far more homogeneous than CPU's. Further individual transistors can break making parts a meaningful distinction. PS: We call them silicon chips, but there are several tiny blobs of different chemicals involved. The process is closer to 3D printing than you might think.

At first I was a little surprised that we were comparing smartphones to cars to CPUs to...oceans. But then I remembered I'm on Hacker News.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by loudmax »

babuskov wrote: post #148
taesu wrote: post #78

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These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

Don't buy a Nexus. I have and it's a huge disappointment. I had a perfect Nexus 10 device running KitKat. And then it keeps nagging to upgrade to Lollipop, so I did. Ever since that, it runs every application slow as hell. If you allow the battery to run out, prepare for pain. Once you fill up the battery and it restarts it will start "optimizing" all installed applications. I have about 80 applications and this take…

In 2010, I was considering getting into Android development, so I paid full price for an unlocked Nexus S when it came out (I think it was about $500). At about the same time, I bought an iPhone 4 for my wife. That Nexus S became slower after each upgrade until it was nearly unusable. The UI was so janky that making or receiving phone calls was difficult, and wasn't even worth considering using the browser. The iPhone 4 stayed just as good as the day we bought it and my wife didn't bother upgrading until the iPhone 6S.

My current phone is a $200 Moto G and I'm perfectly happy with it. Lollipop runs well, battery life is good, and with a cheap SD card I don't have to think about storage. It isn't as nice as the iPhone 6S, but the Moto G is great value.

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Post by sjenson »

cbeach wrote: post #373
sjenson wrote: post #324

Nearly all of the comments here are missing the point of this blog post. The author likes Progressive Web apps, they are important to him. He's moving to Android because it supports the web better. That's it. This isn't iOS vs Android and it certainly isn't web vs native. Yes, the article is critical of native apps (and the app store) so I can see how you'd go there but it's a distraction. I see this article as an"I…

I guess if the original poster had chosen a better title for his HN submission, like "Android's good for progressive web apps" he wouldn't have started a flame war. "I ditched iPhone for Android" is always going to rekindle the iPhone vs Android flame war. The original poster is to blame. It's a pity Android fans always feel the need to compare everything they do to Apple's software and devices. I guess it's the impo…

I didn't read it that way at all. He's calling out that Apple isn't doing a great job supporting the web and this fact is so important to him that he's willing to switch platforms.

And 'blaming the poster' is classic victim shaming. Not reading a post and then flaming based on the title is exactly what the web tends to do far too easily (and what we need much less of)

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Post by guelo »

conradfr wrote: post #137
taesu wrote: post #78

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These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

Until your Nexus is out of the short update window.

Nexuses seem to have about a 3-4 year update window.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by chetanahuja »

jamisteven wrote: post #260

I for one could never go back to Android. iOS is just such a better user experience, much more fluid. Android feels like Cisco Voice's product lineup, all pieced together. fragmented applications and processes that dont work side-by-side with eachother. The other reason, which is huge to me, is the hardware. I am huge on how things feel in the hand and in my opinion apple's hardware is just far superior to anything o…

"all pieced together. fragmented applications and processes that dont work side-by-side with eachother"

Wow this is... don't even know what to say here. Just... incredibly superficial. Let me put this puzzler to you... I want to share something (say an image, video, sound, URL whatever...) from inside an app to a friend via a chat app. Compare how that's done on Android vs in iOS. If you don't know what the answer to that question is in Android, please refrain on commenting about what platform feels like a bunch of fragmented precious snowflakes glued together on a rectangular screen.

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Post by Terretta »

bottled_poe wrote: post #350
ywecur wrote: post #243

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I don't understand why this is seen as required. A Nexus phone if very modular and easy to use.

Unlike the HN readership, most people don't want to think about the tech. They just want to get things done, and are willing to pay big bucks for that convenience.

I'm readership.

I want to think about tech, but the right tech, the tech landscape, ecosystem, and tools that have to evolve to achieve my or my customers' mission.

Everything else, don't make me think. Don't waste my time. Toast my toast. Protect my data. Always work when I need, with no cognitive load.

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