I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS • Hacker News Board

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#191

Post by Exuma » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 7:58 PM UTC

I hate any title that begins with why. Seriously, no one cares. People have opinions. Even seeing 'why' makes certain I will not read your article.

Let me guess the following without even reading...

* several paragraphs of whining about things that are just personal preference.

* making broad/generalized wide sweeping statements and stating them as fact

* tons of rhetorical questions followed by over simplified answers in support of the other product

* dripping with misguided enthusiasm, using lots of words in CAPS and BOLD.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#192

Post by mladenkovacevic » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 7:58 PM UTC

Been with Android since forever, but the battle for security that Apple has recently been fighting on behalf of their customers is enough to make me want to start considering iOS devices in the future.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#193

Post by asai » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:01 PM UTC

The web is a patchwork of different frameworks, languages and standards without any clear direction as to where its heading. Why anyone would want to work with js is also beyond me.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#194

Post by flanbiscuit » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:02 PM UTC

lewisl9029 wrote: post #165

mortenjorck wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you click on the article? All your points, while valid in a vacuum, have nothing to do with the author's argument about the two platforms' approaches to web apps. I appreciate and even agree with your view, but you might as well be talking about OS X versus Windows given the topic of the submitted post.

Threads like these (completely off-topic, but somehow ends up at the top and takes up 1/4 of the page) are why I wish the official HN client could collapse threads.

I love the HN-Special extension and miss it when i'm using mobile. At least HN finally a has a mobile view

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#195

Post by xigency » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:03 PM UTC

Exuma wrote: post #191

I hate any title that begins with why. Seriously, no one cares. People have opinions. Even seeing 'why' makes certain I will not read your article. Let me guess the following without even reading... * several paragraphs of whining about things that are just personal preference. * making broad/generalized wide sweeping statements and stating them as fact * tons of rhetorical questions followed by over simplified answe…

Except you didn't read the article so you don't know that it is specifically related to web application development and not "things that are just personal preference."

The article makes a list of web features that Apple has dropped from the iPhone or from Safari or has neglected to implement continuously over time, and provides real enthusiasm to developers.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#196

Post by rdtsc » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

_kp6z wrote: post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

I got a cheap-o Moto G for $170 3 years ago and love that thing. It is small 4" only, got reasonable updates (up to 5.1 now). It is simple to use.

Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead. Never felt the need to tweak hardware, or run Cyanogen and others. Once I wanted more memory for my music. But then deleted some of the music I didn't want and was fine.

Best part if I sit on it and break it, I'll just go find another $170 Moto G without blinking an eye.

I have a full time job and all but shelling out $700 for a phone I can drop, loose, break is not in my budget yet. Maybe one day...

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#197

Post by mayoff » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:07 PM UTC

taesu wrote: post #78

_kp6z wrote: post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

If you are addicted to junk food but want to eat clean, you rid your house of junk food.

If you are addicted to TV but want to spend your time on more active pursuits, you get rid of your TV.

If you're addicted to futzing around with your Android device…

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#198

Post by Zigurd » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:07 PM UTC

TL;DR (applicable to all articles in both directions): Apple software quality has gone to crap. Android is an inconsistent mess and I hate $OEM or $CARRIER bloatware.

In fact, both iOS and Android are usable. If you had one or the other issued to you by an employers, it would be fine. The only shocking thing is that there isn't a third and fourth choice with a vibrant device and app ecosystem.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#199

Post by angli » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:08 PM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #184

taesu wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

It amazes me when Android users say that the answer to fleeing a walled garden where one company controls the hardware, the software, and the app store is by buying a phone (a Nexus) where one company provides the hardware and software and if you want to stay safe, only use their app store.

I'm an iPhone user myself but I understand this impulse. Having safety and compatibility sorted out for you really is an important time-saver and convenience. However, when you want to do something that isn't part of the manufacturer's plan there's only one way to go. I probably wouldn't sideload many apps, but when there's one app that makes my life easier and app store rules prohibit it, I'd really appreciate the flexibility.

Long story short: just because you can doesn't mean you must. Options are nice but so is not having to think about it. The Nexus is a middle ground for Android

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

#200

Post by bognition » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 8:09 PM UTC

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #192

Been with Android since forever, but the battle for security that Apple has recently been fighting on behalf of their customers is enough to make me want to start considering iOS devices in the future.

I'm in the same camp. I've had a dozen or so android phones starting with the moto droid. I suspect my next phone will be an iPhone, although its hard to justify the price difference between a Nexus 5X and the latest iPhone