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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by takno »

ihsw wrote: post #9
Jerry2 wrote: post #5

>So, instead of opening my text editor I placed an order for a Nexus 6P Nexus 6P is notorious for atrocious build quality. It bends easier than a bar of chocolate. [0] Google should do a recall on these things. It bends a lot easier than an old iPhone 6 plus. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg Edit: I see Google fanboys decided to downvote this comment instead of engaging in a debate. This is not in the…

Anecdotal evidence here -- ordered mine on launch day, been using daily it for a few months. No issues whatsoever. FYI I have a case and I don't know anyone that uses a phone without a case.

Interesting on case usage. I'd say virtually everybody I know with an iPhone has it in a case, but for other devices it's maybe 20% of people I know who use one. All anecdotal, and every mall I go in has a hundred shops selling them, I've just always wondered who's buying them

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by 64bitbrain »

If I ever get a Android phone, it will be Nexus series. I had an HTC and I waited ages for Android 4 update because AT&T didn't had there "customized" version, with bunch of useless apps on it. On the other hand, my friend was able to upgrade to latest version of Android, because he was using Nexus. I switched to an iPhone and I loved it. Better battery life, and clean installation.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by kalleboo »

My main exposure to Chrome web apps is Hangouts on Chrome for Mac and half the time I shut it down and choose to use the native app on my phone instead due to the poor, non-native UI and the battery life impact of Chrome.

edit: the other shiny Google Web App example, Google Docs, doesn't work either. In Safari it likes to drops keys, and the last time I used it in Chrome (last autumn), it would either crash the whole tab, or freeze it up long enough for it to tell me it gave up and that I should just copy the content and paste into a new document

It seems we're re-living the nightmare of Java "cross-platform compatibility" but with an even worse programming language.

> In fact, I think Progressive Web Apps (PWAs) actually have a huge leg-up on native apps because you can start using them immediately

> There’s just so much less friction for users to start using them

Every web app I've used has required a painful sign-up process, which is usually where I bail out of the process. Way more friction than an app store install.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by ryao »

untog wrote: post #28
ryao wrote: post #19

> WebBluetooth (yup, talking to bluetooth devices from JS on a webpage) This sounds like a great new attack vector for the black hats of tommorrow. There are just some things that a web browser should not do. Exposing things that previously required escape from sandbox attacks is one of them.

> There are just some things that a web browser should not do. Exposing things that previously required escape from sandbox attacks is one of them. Why is it any different from an app doing it, though? There will be the same permission prompts etc.

A malicious app must be installed before it can run and is likely vetted by the maintainers of a package manager or App Store. A webpage running JavaScript simply runs with no inspection from anyone.

Also, a malicious party usually cannot inject code into an installed app. Injecting it into a webpage you visit is far easier. Ad/tracking networks have been used for that. There is the possibility of a MITM attack if all parts of the page are not protected by HTTPS. There is also the potential for cross site scripting.

The web is not a place where I would want access to everything an installed application can access to be possible by design.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by bryanlarsen »

hackergary wrote: post #37

Sounds like someone trying to force web apps to do native apps' jobs. When something like React Native bridges web languages and full native benefits/performance.

You're right, that's exactly what he wants to do. Why shouldn't he be able to? It works great on Android.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by criddell »

untog wrote: post #53
criddell wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telling users that they have to install a new browser before they can fully use your app is a lousy experience though. And then two months later they will uninstall Chrome because (as far as they know) they never use it.

That's not how it works. Most Android phones have come with Chrome preinstalled for a while now. That version is automatically updated, just like any other app.

It was enough of a problem less than four months ago that phonearena.com published an article about it:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-change-your-Android-ph...

I don't think Chrome is as ubiquitous as it should be. Do new cheap tablets (like the Kindle Fire) even ship with Chrome?

New phones from Samsung don't have Chrome set as the default browser (not sure if it's even installed by default).

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by intrasight »

kec wrote: post #41
untog wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are just some things that a web browser should not do. Exposing things that previously required escape from sandbox attacks is one of them. Why is it any different from an app doing it, though? There will be the same permission prompts etc.

I visit far more websites in a day than I use strange new apps. Apps also don't suffer from XSS.

Apps suffer from MUCH bigger security issues than XSS. And most modern browsers are immune to XSS.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by _kp6z »

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell service and communications issues. I guess if you have the right level of discipline, apathy, or use a Nexus device that may be more Apples to Apples (harhar).
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