I just realized that half of the applications I have on my phone can't be used without a data connection.
What happens when I lose signal. The cloud is nice, but I need some offline in my life too.
I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#22A bit OT: I'd like a mobile platform that provides confidentiality (from both government draget and commercial spying) and end-user control. These seem like fundementals of any platform, at least as user options, but I haven't found it:
* iOS seems to have some confidentiality, though are users really protected from commercial spying? Of course end-user control is very limited.
* Android provides some end-user control if you root your phone, but it's complicated to utilize. Confidentiality is awful; there are a never-ending number of holes and leak, AFAICT, many built into the OS. No fork (i.e., ROM) of Android seems to focus on confidentiality, though I'm curious whether Blackberry's Priv locks down the OS in addition to the hardware.
* Basebands are neither confidential nor provide end-user control, in any phones outside of FOSS projects, AFAIK.
* Mobile service providers also are an omnipresent risk.
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I suspect a decent solution to the baseband and mobile service problem is the following, but I haven't tried it and I know it has some weaknesses:
* a hosted VPN service that provides a firewall (the firewall is needed to filter outbound connections from your phone)
* a cellular router that's pre-paid, tethered to the phone to isolate the baseband from the rest of your handheld computer
* VOIP service for voice and SMS/MMS
Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6 + Windows" 15 years ago. Except that Android is the open one that is implementing agreed upon standards, and Apple is the laggard left behind.
> Apple is the laggard left behind citation needed
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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#24I agree with pretty much everything in this article - I firmly believe that we're due a "post-app" world where progressively enhanced web sites provide 95% of the functionality we require. But we're not there yet - I'd love to see better WebView integration into native UI components (UINavigationController and the like), to provide things like swipe-to-go-back, which is monumentally hard to do on the web.
But hey. Maybe, just maybe, we'll end up back in a world were cross-platform development is viable. If Apple lets us.
Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6 + Windows" 15 years ago. Except that Android is the open one that is implementing agreed upon standards, and Apple is the laggard left behind.
> Apple is the laggard left behind citation needed
The article itself cites things like the lack of support for WebRTC and Service Workers.
Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#26>So, instead of opening my text editor I placed an order for a Nexus 6P Nexus 6P is notorious for atrocious build quality. It bends easier than a bar of chocolate. [0] Google should do a recall on these things. It bends a lot easier than an old iPhone 6 plus. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg Edit: I see Google fanboys decided to downvote this comment instead of engaging in a debate. This is not in the…
Anecdote: I have owned a Nexus 6p for ~6 months now. When I'm not using it, it's either on my nightstand (sleeping) or it's in my pocket. It has not bent. I have carried several chocolate bars in my pockets before (mostly when I was younger). They bend very easily. (They also melt and even when they don't escape the packaging, there is melted chocolate all over the wrapper, and it's nearly impossible to eat without m…
>FUD
So this video is wrong? He made TWO videos showing how easily Nexus 6P bends because people accused him of faking it the first time.
Video 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIaUH6PIvo
Fact is that Nexus 6P is incredibly poorly engineered due to the placement of various button cutouts and battery position.
Can you take your phone and do what he did and prove him wrong? Go ahead. Until then, this is not FUD and your post is nothing more than a rationalization.
Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#27>So, instead of opening my text editor I placed an order for a Nexus 6P Nexus 6P is notorious for atrocious build quality. It bends easier than a bar of chocolate. [0] Google should do a recall on these things. It bends a lot easier than an old iPhone 6 plus. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg Edit: I see Google fanboys decided to downvote this comment instead of engaging in a debate. This is not in the…
You need to get better chocolate. I have had the 6p for over 3 months now and try as I might I cannot bend it. I don't see how the phone can bend in 99% use case scenarios.
Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#28> WebBluetooth (yup, talking to bluetooth devices from JS on a webpage) This sounds like a great new attack vector for the black hats of tommorrow. There are just some things that a web browser should not do. Exposing things that previously required escape from sandbox attacks is one of them.
> There are just some things that a web browser should not do. Exposing things that previously required escape from sandbox attacks is one of them.
Why is it any different from an app doing it, though? There will be the same permission prompts etc.
Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6 + Windows" 15 years ago. Except that Android is the open one that is implementing agreed upon standards, and Apple is the laggard left behind.
> Apple is the laggard left behind citation needed
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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS
#30I agree with pretty much everything in this article - I firmly believe that we're due a "post-app" world where progressively enhanced web sites provide 95% of the functionality we require. But we're not there yet - I'd love to see better WebView integration into native UI components (UINavigationController and the like), to provide things like swipe-to-go-back, which is monumentally hard to do on the web. But hey. Ma…
I just tried the https://www.pokedex.org/ site on Chrome for Android, and I could add it to my home screen, but that doesn't add it to my app drawer.
That is annoying, I don't want it on my home screen but it seems to be the only way to turn it into a 'native app'.
I don't think Progressive Web Apps are ready for the mainstream, but I'm hopeful that in the next few years we can get there.