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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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It would be nice if guy stuck to coherent argument. Meanwhile he talks about "monarch enforcing a 30% tax.", about iOS developers barely making any money. Ok, so where are the numbers, how much money did he make with his "installable web apps" on Android?

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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I think apps are in a lull right now because most were abandoned and left users feeling jittery about pouring their lives into them. Also few apps spent the effort to take advantage of working offline. If I'm in the subway, I'm basically unable to use anything except games. Although the last couple of games I couldn't play because they were trying to connect to an Ad server that would fail and so the game wouldn't progress.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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And then somebody in management asks why the new app is missing so many features on his brand new iPhone. In fact, all the C-level folks and board members are primarily iPhone and iPad users and none of them are happy that so many goodies are missing.

If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6 + Windows" 15 years ago.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #3

Sadly, the web is an accessibility nightmare. If that changes, then sure, I could move too. But there's a lot that modern versions of iOS get right regarding accessibility, stuff that I wish google/android would do too.

with the latest webdev trends it is extremely unlikely this will improve any time soon. There was a time (~10-15) years ago when separation of concenrs and accessibility did matter, now it is just a js frameworks bloodbath.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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And then somebody in management asks why the new app is missing so many features on his brand new iPhone. In fact, all the C-level folks and board members are primarily iPhone and iPad users and none of them are happy that so many goodies are missing. If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6…

> If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6 + Windows" 15 years ago.

Except that Android is the open one that is implementing agreed upon standards, and Apple is the laggard left behind.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #15

And then somebody in management asks why the new app is missing so many features on his brand new iPhone. In fact, all the C-level folks and board members are primarily iPhone and iPad users and none of them are happy that so many goodies are missing. If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6…

> If you aren't worried about provided a first class experience to your iOS customers, then build for Chrome + Android. Although, that sounds a little like "build for IE6 + Windows" 15 years ago. Except that Android is the open one that is implementing agreed upon standards, and Apple is the laggard left behind.

> Apple is the laggard left behind

citation needed

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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I also went from iOS to Android (iPhone 4s -> Nexus 5x). I had my 4s for 5 years and loved it. I'd still have it if it weren't for iOS 9 being too big to install and verizon overcharging. I've developed apps on both.

Some apps have to be apps to use sensors and devices built into the phones. A lot of apps could probably get away with being mobile sites. Doubly so with some of the new html technologies being introduced by the W3C.

Because Android and iPhone are owned by companies, they can move fast. The web has to accommodate for many more devices. So web standards move slower. In the time apps have become huge, a lot has been added to web standards. But I'm guessing most people haven't noticed. My guess is people are used to using frameworks and have abstracted themselves away from the basics.

As a challenge to the reader, see what you can build in only JS/HTML/CSS with no server side. You'll be pleasantly surprised by what you can accomplish.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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>So, instead of opening my text editor I placed an order for a Nexus 6P Nexus 6P is notorious for atrocious build quality. It bends easier than a bar of chocolate. [0] Google should do a recall on these things. It bends a lot easier than an old iPhone 6 plus. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg Edit: I see Google fanboys decided to downvote this comment instead of engaging in a debate. This is not in the…

Anecdote: I have owned a Nexus 6p for ~6 months now. When I'm not using it, it's either on my nightstand (sleeping) or it's in my pocket. It has not bent. I have carried several chocolate bars in my pockets before (mostly when I was younger). They bend very easily. (They also melt and even when they don't escape the packaging, there is melted chocolate all over the wrapper, and it's nearly impossible to eat without m…

My 6p hasn't been a problem but I actually know someone who managed to bend theirs. Google replaced it.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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> WebBluetooth (yup, talking to bluetooth devices from JS on a webpage)

This sounds like a great new attack vector for the black hats of tommorrow.

There are just some things that a web browser should not do. Exposing things that previously required escape from sandbox attacks is one of them.

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