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That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Then why call it "Pro"

It could be branding? Just like most people don't like a "basic" offering. I could be "Pro" doesn't just mean the "professional software developers" and could mean any kind of professional?

In this case it means pretty much Artistic professionals cuz Pencil is the only distinguishing feature.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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post #199

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And my wife and I still use our iPad 2 without issue aside from the noticeable sluggishness switching apps or updating. Anecdotes!

Not sure what your point is. My point was that the original iPad was nearly unusable in less than 3 years. This is not an anecdote, it's a simple matter of fact. The original iPad was launched in mid 2010. In September 2012 Apple released iOS 6, which didn't run on the original iPad. Shortly afterward, the apps we used all required a forced update to their iOS6 version (which of course didn't work) and it became a do…

That reminds me of my iPod Touch, bought in 2008 to help me decide whether I wanted to try a smartphone. The hardware's fine. Runs as well as it ever has. It's a paperweight because of the lack of software and the discontinuation of support for its hardware's video codecs (Youtube, Netflix, et al).

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Correct. But look at who has a corner on the advertising. iPhones are still seen as another class above by many, if not most, people. Edit: Forgot to say, that by comparison, Android/Windows/whatever smartphones are relatively unknown.

> Forgot to say, that by comparison, Android/Windows/whatever smartphones are relatively unknown. Huh? Android has nearly twice the market share of iOS: https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share... > iPhones are still seen as another class above by many, if not most, people. This is severely anecdotal. But here's an anecdote from me to balance things out: where I come (and indeed within the industr…

Care to share where you're from and what industry?

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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post #473

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> Forgot to say, that by comparison, Android/Windows/whatever smartphones are relatively unknown. Huh? Android has nearly twice the market share of iOS: https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share... > iPhones are still seen as another class above by many, if not most, people. This is severely anecdotal. But here's an anecdote from me to balance things out: where I come (and indeed within the industr…

Care to share where you're from and what industry?

Sorry, should have mentioned it in my previous comment. I'm from in Ireland and work in financial IT as a software engineer.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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I completely agree with the author of the article. Apple is the real-world incarnation of the economic premise of Huxley's "A Brave New World". This was just the mask dropping for a second to pander to the faithful. I'd like to add, as someone who works at K12 public high school, that I've seen the reality of the article played out. My building is 100% free lunch, most are extremely poor, and yet there is a sizable n…

> Why? Because they don't want to look poor or be thought of as such. This is not necessarily correct. A lot of people still regard iPhones and other high-end smartphones as being something of a luxury. They are a luxury when you compare them to what we need for survival (food, water, shelter), but there is something to be said about a small rectangular device that, once purchased, can provide nearly free: 1. enterta…

On the other hand, he/she was talking about high school kids. From poor families. Using top-of-the-line smartphones. Hell, I can afford to buy one iPhone per month, but I still don't have it because I think it is unnecessary luxury for me. Noting wrong with the kids and their parents - they can spend their limited funds on whatever they like. But it bites them in the end...

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Correct. But look at who has a corner on the advertising. iPhones are still seen as another class above by many, if not most, people. Edit: Forgot to say, that by comparison, Android/Windows/whatever smartphones are relatively unknown.

> Forgot to say, that by comparison, Android/Windows/whatever smartphones are relatively unknown. Huh? Android has nearly twice the market share of iOS: https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share... > iPhones are still seen as another class above by many, if not most, people. This is severely anecdotal. But here's an anecdote from me to balance things out: where I come (and indeed within the industr…

Two points:

1 - I can't tell you the number of times I've asked if the person has an Android phone, only to be told: "No, I have a Samsung Galaxy..."

2 - I agree, severely anecdotal. :) I think you'll find that most on the street have never heard of the OnePlus One, and that same group see the iPhone as a luxury item.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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post #41

I completely agree with the author of the article. Apple is the real-world incarnation of the economic premise of Huxley's "A Brave New World". This was just the mask dropping for a second to pander to the faithful. I'd like to add, as someone who works at K12 public high school, that I've seen the reality of the article played out. My building is 100% free lunch, most are extremely poor, and yet there is a sizable n…

It's sort of presumptions to assume that many poor people have iPhones because they want to look cool. Perhaps they feel that the device is a worthwhile investment because it lets them have things like the Internet and email and messaging services and is liable to work properly.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Reminds me of the time Schiller dumped Instagram after an Android version came out.

A reader noticed Schiller deleted his Instagram account (@schiller), and then reached out to Apple’s most visible public speaker by Twitter for confirmation. Schiller told the reader that he quit the rising photo-based social network, because the app “jumped the shark” when it launched on the Android platform.

http://9to5mac.com/2012/04/19/apple-marketing-svp-phil-schil...

At the time, I thought it was a slap in the face to people who couldn't afford iOS devices but wanted to join the Instagram community. Schiller portrayed it as a drop in quality, apparently:

Another 9to5Mac reader, Clayton Braasch, claims to have emailed Schiller directly, asking him to elaborate upon the statement. In a post on his blog, Braasch writes that Schiller responded — 9to5Mac says it has verified the email headers — and that while Schiller still considers Instagram a "great app and community," he enjoyed the fact that it was used by a small group of early adopters. Now that its reach has expanded, Schiller allegedly wrote, "the signal to noise ratio is different."

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/19/2961612/apple-phil-schille...

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