Ask HN: How much do you make at Google? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Google?

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 22, 2016, 10:06 PM UTC

marssaxman wrote: post #53

goog_salary wrote: post #22

SWE, L6, 11 years experience, hired at L4 225 base, 90k bonus, 260k stock (grant size has been going up each year). Google gives fair increases on promo and even if initial salary was in the low end. Pretty common to get a high bump after a year if one negotiated badly.

What, pray tell, were you able to negotiate over? I tried, but it appeared to be company policy not to offer anything I was interested in. I don't know what "L4" means but the numbers you're quoting are considerably higher than the ones I remember from five years ago. I really hate this whole "total compensation" idea that has taken over the computer industry. Just pay me, or shut up, don't wave magic money in my fac…

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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Google?

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Post by goog_salary_q » Tue, Mar 22, 2016, 10:07 PM UTC

goog_salary wrote: post #22

SWE, L6, 11 years experience, hired at L4 225 base, 90k bonus, 260k stock (grant size has been going up each year). Google gives fair increases on promo and even if initial salary was in the low end. Pretty common to get a high bump after a year if one negotiated badly.

Sorry one piece of clarification: Is the amount you quoted your current pay as an L6 or what you were paid when you were hired as an L4?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Google?

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Post by throwawaycomp » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 3:17 PM UTC

eecks wrote: post #80

throwawaycomp wrote: post #26

I was hired straight out of school in June 2013 in mountain view as a level 3 SET at 105K salary, 15% bonus target, and $100k of stock, vesting over 4 years. The next year, I was promoted to level 4, and got a raise to $134k salary. I also got a $35000 year end bonus, and 5k of other bonuses. This year, as a level 5 SWE, my gross income (unless Google's stock price changes significantly) will be $323k - 176k salary,…

Can I ask your working hours?

I work about 9:30 to 5:30.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Google?

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Post by stepny » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 5:14 PM UTC

Posted on the Amazon comp thread but wanted to share here too...

We went through both the Google and Amazon comp (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11312984) threads, and we added it all to this Google Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11tyJW9KPcSiLZBBuf0Z1...

Feel free to share/add to this doc.

Here are the median comps by level for Amazon and Google, just based on the postings collected in the Google doc as of 3/22.

--Amazon -- New grad: $141K, SDE1: $146K, SDE2: $173K, SDE3: $250K, TPM3: $220K,

--Google-- Level 3: $170K, Level 4: $200K, Level 5: $312K, Level 6: $575K, T7: $640K, Tech Level 5: $660K

Just a few notes - Total comp includes bonus, signing bonus, relocation bonus, and stock. Bonuses and stock were all annualized straight-line. (I know this is not how Amazon stock comp is done, but we assumed this in our calcs.) Since we took postings from 2 different threads, it's possible that one person could have posted once in each thread, in which case that would show up twice in the Google doc. Also, there's a lot of variance particularly with bonuses which are lumped in, and some of the higher levels only have one data point, but you can look at the data in the Google doc if you want to dig in.

If it helps with comparison between Amazon and Google, here's how Amazon levels map to Google's (from Quora: https://www.quora.com/How-do-Amazons-engineering-levels-map-...) Amazon SDE 1 - roughly a Google T3 ("I") or T4 ("II"). Amazon SDE 2 - roughly a Google T4 ("III") Amazon SDE 3 - roughly a Google T5 ("Senior") or T6 ("Staff") Amazon Principal - roughly a Google T6 or T7 ("Senior Staff") Amazon Sr. Principal - roughly a Google T8 ("Principal") or T9 ("Distinguished").

Full disclosure - we're Step (http://www.step.com), and we're building a platform to help engineers and product managers anonymously crowdsource personalized salary and level estimates from decision makers and hiring experts at tech companies. This thread is especially interesting to us, because it shows the need/demand for more transparency around compensation and company feedback. Right now, we're working with ~10 NYC startups that will assign personalized salary/level estimates and other feedback to anonymous profiles, but our bigger vision is that as soon as someone signs up, they'll see how each and every company values them without having to interview/talk to recruiters.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Google?

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Post by eecks » Wed, Mar 23, 2016, 7:09 PM UTC

throwawaycomp wrote: post #83

eecks wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask your working hours?

I work about 9:30 to 5:30.

That's pretty good - thought because of your salary it would mean working crazy hours. Do you think you are a very talented programmer or average?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Google?

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Post by BonesJustice » Sun, Mar 27, 2016, 9:05 PM UTC

t3nary wrote: post #7

googsomeday wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you, Sir/Madam! I think it's interesting that you went the tax return route. --------- To save people one click: I spent 5 years at Google. My AGI (as measured by the IRS) during my time there went $130K, $200K, $280K, $280K, $300K, $356K (for my last 5 months there...it also includes unexercised stock options for the last 5 years, though). The bump to $280K was upon promotion to senior SWE; the one to $200K wa…

I'm still a student so I don't know a lot about salaries, but is this kind of increase common? 130k to 280k in two years sounds extreme

After 3.5 years at an enterprise software shop in Atlanta, I was making 80k. This was in 2010, and I'd been working there since graduation. My skills/value had advanced much faster than my comp. I left for a new role in NYC with a base salary of 150k and a bonus of 75k (225k total). Quite a bump overnight.