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3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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Well despite being a very sad event, it affects many people here - Power is out all over Palo Alto.

Ah, now I get it. Palo Alto = Silicon Valley. Ok, that explains the attention.

And even if that wasn't the case Tesla Motors is followed closely by quite a few people here.

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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I agree that those are the two likely possibilities. Given that the pilot was pretty experienced, and was a multi-engine instructor, I'd say that disorientation is less likely. On a cold day at sea level, the 310 should be able to get at least 200fpm. The book number is about 300fpm. However, they may not have been going fast enough to get book performance, and a plane that old usually can't make nearly the book numb…

Do pilots train flying 2-engined planes in emergency (ie, 1-engine) conditions?

Yes, they do. The supposed advantage of a twin engine plane is that you can fly if one quits. The FAA makes you demonstrate that you can handle the plane on one engine before they turn you loose with a twin-engined plane, but the unfortunate reality is that the fatal accident rate for twin engined (small, piston) planes is worse than singles. The problem is that the probability of an engine failure is twice as high in a twin as in a single. In a single, if the engine quits, you're a glider, and the plane is fairly straightforward to handle. As long as you don't hit anything too solid, you'll be OK if you keep the plane under control through the landing. In a twin though, you have to do everything just right, or you can end up out of control and hit the ground nose down and die.

In most light twin planes, both props turn the same direction, and so the plane has a natural left-turning tendency when climbing. If the left engine goes out, you're in a very bad situation, because now the plane really wants to go to the left. If you indulge it, you don't get to go where you want. If you don't, you may get a worse climb rate (which is already very bad.)

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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What happened to the old article that was just here? It seems the points remain but the comments are all gone. Also, it's been reposted by pg...

Arbitrary killing of posts and comments by editorial fiat is a storied HN tradition.

It's not arbitrary. I flagged the story and I am pretty sure others flagged the story, too. Flagged stories get killed. It's the right thing to do.

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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Do pilots train flying 2-engined planes in emergency (ie, 1-engine) conditions?

Yes, they do. The supposed advantage of a twin engine plane is that you can fly if one quits. The FAA makes you demonstrate that you can handle the plane on one engine before they turn you loose with a twin-engined plane, but the unfortunate reality is that the fatal accident rate for twin engined (small, piston) planes is worse than singles. The problem is that the probability of an engine failure is twice as high i…

Why don't they spin the props opposite directions?

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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Yes, they do. The supposed advantage of a twin engine plane is that you can fly if one quits. The FAA makes you demonstrate that you can handle the plane on one engine before they turn you loose with a twin-engined plane, but the unfortunate reality is that the fatal accident rate for twin engined (small, piston) planes is worse than singles. The problem is that the probability of an engine failure is twice as high i…

Why don't they spin the props opposite directions?

It would make props and many engine parts non-interchangeable, significantly increasing capital and maintenance costs.

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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What happened to the old article that was just here? It seems the points remain but the comments are all gone. Also, it's been reposted by pg...

The other article was tripe. People were upvoting based on worthiness of the story, not on the particular writing at the original site. Now everyone can read actual facts and come up with their own opinions.

It was Jalopnik otherwise known as the hand that feeds the Top Gear news section. If you read TheRegister you might understand a little. Just because someone dies you shouldn't stop acting like yourself.

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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Arbitrary killing of posts and comments by editorial fiat is a storied HN tradition.

It's not arbitrary, it's just not explained.

If there are rules, the only plausible reason not to announce the rules is so that you can change them without having to give notice. This assumes that the rules haven't been announced, of course; maybe they have.

Re: 3 Tesla workers die in E. Palo Alto plane crash

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It's not arbitrary, it's just not explained.

If there are rules, the only plausible reason not to announce the rules is so that you can change them without having to give notice. This assumes that the rules haven't been announced, of course; maybe they have.

The guidelines are linked in the footer:

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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