The Battle for Picasso’s Multi-Billion-Dollar Empire
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The Battle for Picasso’s Multi-Billion-Dollar Empire
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#2This appears to be a fantastic example of why you should always make sure you have a will in place.
Re: The Battle for Picasso’s Multi-Billion-Dollar Empire
#3This appears to be a fantastic example of why you should always make sure you have a will in place.
Or why copyright should not be effectively forever. Not one new artwork is produced by still allowing copyright on Picasso's artwork.
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#4This appears to be a fantastic example of why you should always make sure you have a will in place.
Or why copyright should not be effectively forever. Not one new artwork is produced by still allowing copyright on Picasso's artwork.
> Not one new artwork is produced by still allowing copyright on Picasso's artwork.
That's quite a claim. It's conceivable that someone today considering whether to devote time to producing some work of art, rather than pursing another endeavor, would make a different choice depending on how many years he might expect that he and his heirs would have exclusive rights to it.
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#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or why copyright should not be effectively forever. Not one new artwork is produced by still allowing copyright on Picasso's artwork.
> Not one new artwork is produced by still allowing copyright on Picasso's artwork. That's quite a claim. It's conceivable that someone today considering whether to devote time to producing some work of art, rather than pursing another endeavor, would make a different choice depending on how many years he might expect that he and his heirs would have exclusive rights to it.
I have yet to meet an artist motivated by the existence of copyright 50 years after they are dead. If anything knowing your heirs won't be able to live off your copyright after you are dead should motivate an artist to produce more today and pass on the money.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Not one new artwork is produced by still allowing copyright on Picasso's artwork. That's quite a claim. It's conceivable that someone today considering whether to devote time to producing some work of art, rather than pursing another endeavor, would make a different choice depending on how many years he might expect that he and his heirs would have exclusive rights to it.
I have yet to meet an artist motivated by the existence of copyright 50 years after they are dead. If anything knowing your heirs won't be able to live off your copyright after you are dead should motivate an artist to produce more today and pass on the money.
> I have yet to meet an artist
You went from an unprovable absolute claim to providing anecdotal evidence. I'm not saying you're wrong... just that what you've said so far doesn't convince me that "copyright should not be effectively forever" or that "50 years after they are dead" is "effectively forever".
This is by no means my area of expertise, but I'll give you an (probably unoriginal) example. Let's say an artist creates something at age 30. He could use some extra money at age 70. Wouldn't he be able to sell the rights for more to someone who the law will allow to retain those rights for more years after this artist has died?
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have yet to meet an artist motivated by the existence of copyright 50 years after they are dead. If anything knowing your heirs won't be able to live off your copyright after you are dead should motivate an artist to produce more today and pass on the money.
> I have yet to meet an artist You went from an unprovable absolute claim to providing anecdotal evidence. I'm not saying you're wrong... just that what you've said so far doesn't convince me that "copyright should not be effectively forever" or that "50 years after they are dead" is "effectively forever". This is by no means my area of expertise, but I'll give you an (probably unoriginal) example. Let's say an artis…
It is not an unprovable absolute claim that Picasso has not produced any artwork since he has died - it is a fact.
The only question is would having long copyright have motivated Picasso to have created more art when he was alive. Given that the extensions to his copyright occurred after he died we can be pretty certain that unless he was a clairvoyant that the later retrospective changes to the copyright laws did not motivate him to produce anything.
More fundamentally great artists create art because they have to - it is part of their core. Art existed before copyright for exactly this reason.
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#8Authorities should null and void the whole lot for public good.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have yet to meet an artist You went from an unprovable absolute claim to providing anecdotal evidence. I'm not saying you're wrong... just that what you've said so far doesn't convince me that "copyright should not be effectively forever" or that "50 years after they are dead" is "effectively forever". This is by no means my area of expertise, but I'll give you an (probably unoriginal) example. Let's say an artis…
It is not an unprovable absolute claim that Picasso has not produced any artwork since he has died - it is a fact. The only question is would having long copyright have motivated Picasso to have created more art when he was alive. Given that the extensions to his copyright occurred after he died we can be pretty certain that unless he was a clairvoyant that the later retrospective changes to the copyright laws did no…
what's discouraging is that some of you are essentially implying that picasso should have sold himself as a service (make more art while alive) instead of doing whatever a once-in-a-timeline artistic genius needs to do to create priceless artifacts that, by the way, required the investment of his, and his family member's, lives to realize. when his works are equatable with the lyrics to "happy birthday" this might be worth revisiting; until then why don't you buy some art? http://fineartamerica.com/featured/copyright-john-muellerlei...
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not an unprovable absolute claim that Picasso has not produced any artwork since he has died - it is a fact. The only question is would having long copyright have motivated Picasso to have created more art when he was alive. Given that the extensions to his copyright occurred after he died we can be pretty certain that unless he was a clairvoyant that the later retrospective changes to the copyright laws did no…
what's discouraging is that some of you are essentially implying that picasso should have sold himself as a service (make more art while alive) instead of doing whatever a once-in-a-timeline artistic genius needs to do to create priceless artifacts that, by the way, required the investment of his, and his family member's, lives to realize. when his works are equatable with the lyrics to "happy birthday" this might be…
Actually not at all. I believe from all I have read about Picasso he would have been a productive artist even if no copyright existed - he was a great artist and creating art was at his core.
I actually buy a lot of art - I have long since run out of wall space to hang it all :) None of the artists I buy are producing art just for the money and copyright plays no role in why they are an artist.