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Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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Looks like Turkey, Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia (my home country) and others are not Western enough for Facebook.

Maybe Facebook thinks that the Safety Check wont work for countries waging civil wars.

Ah I didn't know Tunisia and Turkey had civil wars. I was in both 6 months back, must have happened recently.

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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Today is the first time since 9/11 that I can remember hearing the news of a terrorist attack and not being gripped by panic. I guess the Boston Marathon Bombings, Paris Attacks (Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan both) shootings and other events have kind of led me being in an oddly calm state when I hear news like this now. This is not the way I want to feel. If you would've told me around 8:30 a.m. on September 10th the w…

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Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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Today is the first time since 9/11 that I can remember hearing the news of a terrorist attack and not being gripped by panic. I guess the Boston Marathon Bombings, Paris Attacks (Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan both) shootings and other events have kind of led me being in an oddly calm state when I hear news like this now. This is not the way I want to feel. If you would've told me around 8:30 a.m. on September 10th the w…

I think one of the most important things that we can do when faced with these types of events, but which usually fails to happens, is for us to humbly drop our assumptions, and to dig in to try understand the deeply complex histories and motivations that led to the attacks. If we don't understand why something is happening (and no, it's not because "ISIS is evil incarnate", as some try to proclaim), how we can ever hope to stop it, or more importantly, prevent similar/analogous conditions that result in this type of outcome from arising again? Due to the complex cultural, historical, economic, and psychological factors at play, there is no "easy fix" that actually solves the problem in the long run.

Edit: I don't claim to have a rich understanding of the issue, but I appreciated the nuanced analysis in this article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isi...

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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This is a mess larger than I can comprehend, with scores of innocent dead. The spectrum of political issues this crosses is vast. We're talking nationalism, immigration, religion, extremism, surveillance, privacy, and war to name a few. The nuance required to understand and attack the big picture is almost nowhere to be found. I saw the French PM said something like "we're at war" - I'm not sure who they're at war wi…

Corrected: ISIS official media wing has claimed responsibility for the attack http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brussels-attacks-isis-claims-res...

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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post #291

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Maybe Facebook thinks that the Safety Check wont work for countries waging civil wars.

Ah I didn't know Tunisia and Turkey had civil wars. I was in both 6 months back, must have happened recently.

How would you call it?

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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Comparing terrorist attacks with traffic accidents is quite a display of originality.

Not really. The point is that people are irrationally afraid of incredibly improbable / statistically insignificant events and the result is bad policy decisions / suboptimal use of resources by reactive governments. People should be much more afraid of dying in a car accident than dying at the hands of terrorists, yet few people are urgently pushing the government to enforce stronger safety standards in cars / on ro…

Good point. If the United States, for instance, used the money for the "War on Terror" on things that were more likely to save American lives (anti-smoking, healthcare, traffic safety, etc.), we probably could have saved hundreds of thousands of American lives (or more, the CDC says that 480,000 Americans die each year from smoking).

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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This is a mess larger than I can comprehend, with scores of innocent dead. The spectrum of political issues this crosses is vast. We're talking nationalism, immigration, religion, extremism, surveillance, privacy, and war to name a few. The nuance required to understand and attack the big picture is almost nowhere to be found. I saw the French PM said something like "we're at war" - I'm not sure who they're at war wi…

I stand corrected.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WO0L...

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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As sad as it is, I think the responses will be: - we need more surveillance rights and money for the secret services - we need more police and higher spending - and possibly bomb some country (Syria is en vogue) What won't be said is: - How come this happens again without anyone having seen it coming? - What does it say about the success of the Western anti-terror foreign policy adopted ~2001?

"Without seeing it coming" might be a stretch here. When I was at BRU some month ago, the whole airport was patrolled by heavily armed military guards. AFAIK this has been the case since the Paris attacks.

Re: Brussels Rocked by Terrorist Attacks

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post #118

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That's exactly what more police will do. Make people feel safer, not actually be more safe. It's security theater. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater

Belgium recently said that nearly every one of their available officers was running down ISIS / jihad leads, they've essentially stopped investigating other crimes and still don't have the manpower required. They're in desperate need of more well-trained police.

More & better trained detective-type police can be useful, but the vast majority of any police force isn't doing detective work.
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