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Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chaps from the Special Boat Service might disagree with you on that point! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Boat_Service

I don't think so - their name refers to the small boats and canoes they originally operated from.

Aren't submarines referred to as boats? :-)

[NB Apologies, I was being silly with that original comment, as far as I know you are correct.]

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

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post #10

What is so wrong with it? Does it sound like every other seagoing vessel before it? No but who cares. It's unique and wonderful that human beings have a sense of humor. Maybe public works projects need more of this.

Well for one She is a Ship not a Boat - and Maritime types get quite upset if you refer to their ship as a boat. (think Pissed off Gibbs from NCIS) I did like that "Forward Unto Dawn" (the ship in halo) was 4th at one point

Fine.

Shippy McShipface it is.

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

#53

They should run with it, the positive PR now and in the future when the RSS Boaty McBoatface docks would be worth it. It would also show a sense of humour and make it something fun.

Funny how everyone assumes this is a hoax, i.e. people didn't really want this name. I think it would be a fine name. And for the more traditional/ceremonious types, maybe it will inspire them to pay attention and get involved next time. That's IMHO a better outcome than soliciting participation from the public and then overriding the result by fiat.

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post #19

They should run with it, the positive PR now and in the future when the RSS Boaty McBoatface docks would be worth it. It would also show a sense of humour and make it something fun.

There was a similar situation a few years back - some local Hungarian government were running an online poll to decide the name of a new local bridge and more importantly you were able to submit your own proposal. Some internet community got wind of this and mobilised to vote the name "Stephen Colbert Bridge" until it was at the top of the standings. Even though they never went with the name (they elected to use "Meg…

It's a bizarre world where an individual has more PR sway than an entire country.

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

#56
Although these pranks are funny they highlight a something very serious - the failure case of direct democracy. When minor issues come up for vote not everyone cares. The people who do care enough to vote can easily be trolls.

As an example, imagine that a vote comes up for raising tolls from $1 to $2 on little used street. It's one of 1000 votes a month in a direct democracy. There's little chance of getting attention if you get a bunch of people together to vote "no" but what if you get a bunch of people together to vote "no" on all odd numbered streets?

A large number of contests with low voter interest, plus the potential for publicity is fertile ground for trolling.

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

#57

They should run with it, the positive PR now and in the future when the RSS Boaty McBoatface docks would be worth it. It would also show a sense of humour and make it something fun.

Greenpeace ran a campaign to name a whale in 2007. "Mr. Splashypants" topped the polls, and since Greenpeace's goal was publicity and public engagement, they accepted it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Splashy_Pants

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

#58
post #9

Well just give people a vote but secure veto rights so you can pick from a runner-up. Not that complicated. Crowdsourcing can be wonderful but it does have its pitfalls for the lowest common denominator.

> Crowdsourcing can be wonderful but it does have its pitfalls for the lowest common denominator.

Actually the Boaty... name was proposed by one of the NERC staff, so isn't actually a result of crowdsourcing.

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

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Although these pranks are funny they highlight a something very serious - the failure case of direct democracy. When minor issues come up for vote not everyone cares. The people who do care enough to vote can easily be trolls. As an example, imagine that a vote comes up for raising tolls from $1 to $2 on little used street. It's one of 1000 votes a month in a direct democracy. There's little chance of getting attenti…

I always thought that a direct democracy where you can by default delegate your vote to one of the elected politicians, but you override whenever you want, would be the best of both worlds (representative democracy and direct democracy). That wouldn't necessarily work on this kind of votes (names for stuff), but I think it would work well on the regular issues that politicians make decisions about.

Re: Boaty McBoatface: What You Get When You Let the Internet Decide

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post #20

Similar thing happened in Iceland a few years ago. Before starting work to review the constitution, they ran a facebook poll to get input from the population. Top suggestions were "Free Ice Cream"and "More Volcanoes": http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/31/icelands-crowdsourced-con...

More Volcanoes? That's just greedy...
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