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Re: iPhone SE

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But developers are not the majority of customers.

But they are the ones making the apps

Just look at the number of apps in the App store, as far as Apple is concerned getting developers on board is fixed (even though most developers would disagree).

Re: iPhone SE

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No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.

You know, until you mentioned it just now, I’d forgotten my phone even has 3D Touch. It had been literally weeks since I last thought to use force-touch for anything, mostly because there is zero indication where it will work. And it is half-baked in the sense that when I do activate 3D Touch, it’s usually by accident. It is almost the same gesture as deleting apps on the home screen! I go to delete an app, press-and…

I use the 3D Touch all the time, new email message, quick contacts, preview emails or photos. I love it.

Re: iPhone SE

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>$399 USD is great It's going to be $559 in Denmark. I had to check the prices on the other models, the cheapest 6S is $875. I never realized how expensive an iPhone is. Why anyone would buy an iPhone at those prices are beyond me. Sure, most will be buying via their carrier along with a subscription, but in most cases that will just make the phone more expensive.

Note that the price in Denmark includes VAT, whereas the price in the US is before any taxes. Though which comparable device would you suggest at a similar price point?

The current exchange rate for $400 USD is $525 CAD. The price in Canada is $580/$710 CAD for 16GB/64GB (which is before taxes). The Nexus 5X 16GB is $440. The Nexus 6P 32GB is $650. The Nexus 6P 64GB is $700.

Re: iPhone SE

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No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.

I don't understand why everyone is ignoring the simple answer that no 3D touch is simply a result of the same 5S screen being used? Presumably 3D touch requires a haptic layer on the screen so if that's not present, it can't exist.

Dare I ask why I'm being downvoted? As far as I can tell, [1] suggests that there's additional hardware involved in the screen to make 3D touch work. Is it that this hardware exists but just isn't being used? Is it that people think it's a trivial addition to revise the 4" screen to include this hardware and that Apple were just lazy?

I'm genuinely curious, because I have not seen anyone say "hey maybe they just used the same screen as the 5S and that's why 3D touch is left off" but I have seen a lot of "I don't understand why Apple neglected to include 3D touch in the SE".

[1]: http://www.apple.com/au/iphone-6s/3d-touch/

Re: iPhone SE

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It would give me anxiety if I dropped AU$1400 on a phone I couldn't interact with properly.

Why, when you have 14 days to just take it back no questions asked?

To elaborate since I'm apparently being downvoted and can't edit: In Australia, which I'm assuming the parent is part of since they specified AUD$1400, Apple specifically allows for a 14 day return policy [1]. You could drop AUD$1400 on the phone, find it does not suit your needs, then return it and get something else no questions asked.

In that sense, Apple specifically alleviates that anxiety of dropping AUD$1400 on a new phone and as a result I don't necessarily understand why the parent would find it anxiety-provoking to find it doesn't work for them when they can easily receive a refund.

[1]: http://www.apple.com/au/shop/help/returns_refund

Re: iPhone SE

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See it go? I'd wait for the iPhone 7 event to see if 3D Touch is left to the history books.

Phone companies copy the best features from each other. You didn't see apple implementing Samsung's "show your face to unlock your phone" feature because it was kinda slow and dumb. Likewise, I don't see any Android phones with 3D touch. Yet when front-facing cameras came out, EVERYONE jumped on that feature, now your phone is dead in the water without it. It was left to the history books the moment other manufacture…

>Yet when front-facing cameras came out, EVERYONE jumped on that feature, now your phone is dead in the water without it.

When do you think front-facing cameras came out?

The answer is, they were rather common in (non-touch) smartphones outside the U.S. before the first iPhone was even rumoured of, yet Apple only introduced one in the 4th generation of their phones.

Re: iPhone SE

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It's not fragmentation. Pencil and 3D Touch were designed as optional features from the get-go. It makes perfect sense to reserve them for their premium devices. Fragmentation is more like when apps run poorly on less popular Android phones because of all the differences (screen sizes, performance characteristics, etc.). But optional features like 3D Touch peek/pop aren't really essential to make apps run well. They'…

It's curious that the smaller phone is not a 'pro' device. I just want it to be smaller, not less powerful or even less expensive. There are of course size which limitations which dictate that smaller devices cannot cram all capabilities into the same space. But to the extent that is not true, let me pay for a powerful small iPhone.

I'm in the same boat. Updated year after year and got all of them up to the 5s. The 6 form factor annoys me, too big to hold it confortably and too small to actually replace the ipad. Wouldn't pay premium proce for the c device of a generation past, this se perfectly fits the bill of what a smartphone should be to me

Re: iPhone SE

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I am always surprised by these expansive US plans. In France for instance, you can have 50 GB LTE for 20 € per month (with Free). In Austria, 10 GB LTE for 15 € is not uncommon.

WOW I SAY WOW!! No way you can get that in Spain!

You haven't seen Romania. At RCS & RDS here I pay 4.84 euros for unlimited 4G/LTE + 500 minutes of international/national calling.

http://www.rcs-rds.ro/telefonie-digi?t=telefonie-mobila&pach...

Re: iPhone SE

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I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that when people talk about how mobile touch interfaces have "low discoverability", comments like this are exactly what they're talking about .

But it should also be noted there's a difference of importance between the discoverability for basic functions, like opening apps or moving the cursor 'regularly' in a text field. Then you have the discoverability of the shortcuts, or 'power user' features which you can do without Of course, this is all on a grade. Control Centre has a medium-low discoverability (given only a visual hint on the lock screen), and is m…

This keyboard movement business is far from less necessary -- moving a cursor in text the traditional way, with that wonky magnifying glass and terrible snapping precision, can be borderline infuriating.
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