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Re: iPhone SE

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Post by kalleboo »

liviu wrote: post #255
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

16GB is enought for me. I don't watch movies, I don't listen to much music and I don't install apps. Just a phone with some basic apps and internet connections. I also think 4 inches is decent size for my pocket. I think I'll buy my first iPhone soon. Good job, Apple.

If you haven't actually had an iPhone before, I'm not sure I'd be so confident 16 GB is enough. My wife's needs are also quite basic, but she was always running into storage limitations on her 16 GB iPhone 5s.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by kalleboo »

kingnothing wrote: post #446
staticelf wrote: post #404

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Sweden is not dense at all and we have a lot more data for a lesser cost. I don't think density of cities are the only explanation.

Sweden is roughly the size of California, and roughly 1/25th the size of Canada. As for population density, Sweden is about 6x more dense than Canada (23 people / sq km vs 4, respectively). It's comparatively a dense country.

I'm not sure you can compare densities just like that, since there are large parts of Canada nobody is expecting them to cover

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by repsilat »

kingnothing wrote: post #446
staticelf wrote: post #404

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Sweden is not dense at all and we have a lot more data for a lesser cost. I don't think density of cities are the only explanation.

Sweden is roughly the size of California, and roughly 1/25th the size of Canada. As for population density, Sweden is about 6x more dense than Canada (23 people / sq km vs 4, respectively). It's comparatively a dense country.

> Sweden is about 6x more dense than Canada

Canada quite a high effective density -- something like 80 or 90% of the population live within 100 miles of the US border. Those statistics are not terribly convincing.

Better, I think, to note that Sweden has a high proportion of urban residents at 87%, compared to around 83% for Canada and the US.

http://www.geohive.com/earth/pop_urban.aspx

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by kijin »

rpgmaker wrote: post #253
junto wrote: post #131

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That's why I've been desperately holding on to my Nexus 4! It is the perfect size.

I've been holding on to my S4 mini for years now. Samsung keeps growing the size of the phones in their Mini line which is ridiculous. If you keep increasing the size of the phone it stops being "mini" at some point and becomes just an expensive, underpowered, flagship lookalike.

Same here. The S4 mini is also easily rootable and compatible with a wide range of custom ROMs. I'm running Cyanogenmod 12 on mine, and planning to upgrade to Cyanogenmod 13 now that it has been marked as stable.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by repsilat »

distances wrote: post #189
Raphmedia wrote: post #98

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France is the size of my backyard. Of course the cost of infrastructure & maintenance is going to be lower. That being said, yes, we are getting very bad price on that side of the ocean because of price inflation.

Always the same excuse that doesn't even hold up. * US population density: 35/km2 * Finland population density: 18/km2 It's not about the size of the country, it's because in Europe the infrastructure owners are required to let others in [1]. In US the operators are natural monopolies with very little incentives for competition. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operato...

Finland has a higher proportion of urban residents than the US. The US is also known for its huge number of small and mid-sized cities and population spread all over the country, whereas (proportionately) more of Finland is essentially empty.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #179
wahsd wrote: post #89

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I see it as a rather significant error on their part. And to be honest, I am not quite sure why there has not been a massive revolt by app developers, content creators, and companies in general. With the OS taking up a huge chunk of that 16GB and basic functionality like messaging taking up another 700MB-1.5GB, and not even counting photos and videos than can almost take up infinite amounts of storage; little is left…

> If you want to watch a movie On a 4in screen? Nope, I don't. > If you want a decent sized music selection I don't. I listen to music at home, from my desktop. I don't really have a use case for listening to it on the road. > I, as a 16 GB iPhone user, would not be able to download or keep various apps on my phone that would be available for use if I had to trade off with taking pictures of my life Sure. So don't bu…

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Re: iPhone SE

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Post by bsimpson »

robertwalsh0 wrote: post #248

I remember Jobs talking about never making a larger phone. I really wonder if it was a case of him caring about "taste" over "giving people what they want." There was some leaked Apple internal document where they said that people wanted larger phones. The post-Jobs Apple created larger phones to meet market demands. One thing that always makes me giggle, though, is the fact that if you double tap the home button the…

I have been carrying an iPhone 6S+ for the past month, and I can usually use it with one hand.

Bikes come in various sizes to fit various bodies. Handheld devices should too.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by khedoros »

toufka wrote: post #482
abalone wrote: post #456

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It's not fragmentation. Pencil and 3D Touch were designed as optional features from the get-go. It makes perfect sense to reserve them for their premium devices. Fragmentation is more like when apps run poorly on less popular Android phones because of all the differences (screen sizes, performance characteristics, etc.). But optional features like 3D Touch peek/pop aren't really essential to make apps run well. They'…

It's curious that the smaller phone is not a 'pro' device. I just want it to be smaller, not less powerful or even less expensive. There are of course size which limitations which dictate that smaller devices cannot cram all capabilities into the same space. But to the extent that is not true, let me pay for a powerful small iPhone.

I'd like that; a 4"-4.5" flagship-level device. Small hardware shouldn't be relegated to the bargain bin.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by m_mueller »

1123581321 wrote: post #624
m_mueller wrote: post #623

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Well, I can see people buying this used because it looks good and fits in their hands. Thanks for the link. I run on 9 too - if it weren't for the SE which I'm going to buy I'd downgrade by now since it has become rather unbearable. I can load like one webpage into the RAM - switching to another app and going back to Safari will reload again - which, depending on connection and complexity of the page can take ages an…

Yes, using a 4S at this point definitely changes your behavior. Like you, I was holding out for the SE and I'm really happy it's here and looks good (except for the 1GB RAM; that is disappointing.)

Yes, the 1GB is troublesome. However, judging by the 4S at least we know that half of it will be available for apps in iOS 9, since the 512 of the 4S is right at the edge of being filled by the OS. The question is of course how many upgrades it will survive - this smells a lot like planned obsolescence.
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