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U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

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Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

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One of three things is true:

1. The FBI is lying to save face,

2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them,

3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of.

I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it.

Am I missing something obvious?

Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

#4

One of three things is true: 1. The FBI is lying to save face, 2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them, 3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of. I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it. Am I missing something obvious?

>Am I missing something obvious?

John McAfee did promise to do it for free. /½ s

The guy is eccentric but I don't think he's an idiot and I do think he is likely talented, or at least rich enough to hire those who are.

That being said - he admits he was full of shit [0] and then claims that he has a proper method that isn't full of shit but which he didn't want to disclose. Chances are he's probably full of shit on that one too, given the track record, but who knows?

[0] http://www.dailydot.com/politics/john-mcafee-lied-iphone-app...

Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

#5

One of three things is true: 1. The FBI is lying to save face, 2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them, 3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of. I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it. Am I missing something obvious?

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Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

#6

One of three things is true: 1. The FBI is lying to save face, 2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them, 3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of. I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it. Am I missing something obvious?

I am guessing they caught wind of possibly losing the case and don't want the precedent set. That's what this was always about, right?

Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

#8

One of three things is true: 1. The FBI is lying to save face, 2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them, 3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of. I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it. Am I missing something obvious?

It's weird that the offer to help was publicized before any solicitation for offers to help. Assuming that number 3 is the case, that ups the likelihood that the exploit is coming from a government insider (likely NSA, although ex-government security researchers are also likely).

Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

#9

One of three things is true: 1. The FBI is lying to save face, 2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them, 3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of. I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it. Am I missing something obvious?

4. They don't want to allow precedents to be set that aren't the precedents they were looking for.

Re: U.S. Says It May Not Need Apple’s Help to Unlock iPhone

#10

One of three things is true: 1. The FBI is lying to save face, 2. Someone -- but probably needs to be some people -- from Apple is willing to help them, 3. There is an undisclosed vulnerability in iOS which Apple is unaware of. I find it really hard to believe that someone would disclose a zero day exploit to the FBI without charging significant $ for it. Am I missing something obvious?

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