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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get equity or get out - make the promises binding.

First off, I made the decision to go for equity last time place I worked. That does not always equate to being a founder. I was the only non-founder with equity and when I was fired (for being burnt out but that's another story) I lost in the end. On top of that, being the only technical person and have full control over everything, including domains, hosting, code, etc. It's not really like I can be forced out.

Yes you can.

You were paid for those things. You can't hold them ransom.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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"you can export the whole sheet and perform your own analysis or just copy the sheet and use Google Spreadsheet to run formulas and/or generate charts/graphs." I can't see a way to get the data out of there other than saving as a html page, there are no standard google docs controls available. Am I missing something?

If you remove htmlview from the end of the URL, you'll get the regular view with the option to download from the File menu.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Does anyone know why engineering salaries are so low in Chicago? Especially with regards to city size / cost of living / amount of tech? It baffled me when I lived there, and it still baffles me when I don't.

My anecdata having worked in Seattle and Chicago now: Chicago's 'tech scene' is mostly either trading or tech applied in an incremental way to an existing business model, eg Groupon. The trading firms do pay quite well, but you'll be in an extreme niche and likely have limited insight into how you could ever leave, given you've not been building products/programming so much as coding performance improvements. The few…

Having done the same (Seattle then Chicago) trading is big here, and pays well, but can be less than rewarding if you like building products.

That being said, I think there are plenty of interesting tech companies here if you dig a bit. For example, CleverSafe (https://www.cleversafe.com/), Signal (http://www.signal.co/), and BrainTree (https://www.braintreepayments.com/) are larger ones with real engineering challenges.

And, if you are interested in a smaller Chicago company doing interesting things, feel free to check out Earshot (http://earshotinc.com/careers) - we are hiring.

Even if Earshot isn't right for you feel free to connect with me if you are interested in the Chicago startup scene.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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I'd put my salary on there, but it's a specific number in the $400k-$800k range (yes, base), which is basically identifiable. I may be the only person at my company on this specific number. (And I'm nervous about tightening that range up any more!) How many other highly paid professionals have the same hesitation? The really high salaries may never be part of an anonymous survey like this, where you are required to b…

Yeah, there's several on here already that are almost certainly identifiable, if the employer intended to figure it out.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

#195

Does anyone know why engineering salaries are so low in Chicago? Especially with regards to city size / cost of living / amount of tech? It baffled me when I lived there, and it still baffles me when I don't.

Chicago is so incredibly cheap compared to NYC or SF. You can actually afford to own something in the most desirable parts of Chicago and can still have the benefit of not having to own a car in many cases. I thought about relocating to Chicago (it's a great, underrated city) and was shocked how cheap the rent was in places like Lincoln Park. I could just buy a place. I can't say that about NYC or SF where rents are…

I don't know about downtown, since I'm a suburbanite, but I've found in the Chicago area, it's generally cheaper to buy than rent. My first place was a condo, because renting was pretty much throwing money away.

And if you can suffer the commute, in the suburbs, you get a condo AND a parking spot for $800 a month. o_o

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #104

It's strange to me that these salary discussions are so narrowly focused on just pay/bonus and don't seem to care about benefits and work/life balance. Here's stuff I track in my own career spreadsheet and compare new jobs against these metrics when considering a new one: * Vacation, sick, and holiday time off * Distance to work and traffic considerations * Relative cost of living * Health insurance cost and coverage…

It's almost like if he wanted to do this and only include salary information he should have called it 'a simple spreadsheet of salaries'. That way we'd know at least.

But then he asked "Why not" and jotux answered that question.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All depends on the area ;) Best offers I have seen out of college is $130K total comp from random people on the internet, haven't seen anything better yet.

I'm just wondering why a lot of these people with tons of experience are settling for sub-$70k jobs. Is there a reason for this?

I guess a great question is... are they happy with it? I like my current employer, they're the kind of company I want to work for. I actually stated the salary I wanted upfront, and they gave it to me. It isn't particularly high, but it covers my needs and then some. It was a bit more than my salary at my last job, which was fine with me.

I have a Toyota. I don't need a Tesla.

I am a (relatively) happy person.

What more could I want?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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I'd put my salary on there, but it's a specific number in the $400k-$800k range (yes, base), which is basically identifiable. I may be the only person at my company on this specific number. (And I'm nervous about tightening that range up any more!) How many other highly paid professionals have the same hesitation? The really high salaries may never be part of an anonymous survey like this, where you are required to b…

At that cost to the company, what are you doing on HN on a Monday afternoon?

I kid, I kid ;)

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