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Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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"you can export the whole sheet and perform your own analysis or just copy the sheet and use Google Spreadsheet to run formulas and/or generate charts/graphs."

I can't see a way to get the data out of there other than saving as a html page, there are no standard google docs controls available. Am I missing something?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

#152

I've seen this happen a few times. Seattle has had a few salary spreadsheets go around. It generally stays low level (under 5 years) and eventually gets flooded with fakes. I wonder if what we really need is for it to just be straight public with your name attached. What if LinkedIn had a salary section? Let you display your current or historical salary. Would people do that? Say what they make? Seems unlikely. What…

Doing this on LinkedIn would be really bad, because that data would be out there for recruiters, and you'd lose most of your leverage when trying to negotiate at a new job.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Hi, I'm a CS student in Europe and about to finish my MSc. I haven't got a clue about what to expect salary wise once I leave university.

Looking at the spreadsheet I noticed, that all the jobs in the US easily make twice the money then the european ones. Since according to Google 1$ is about 0.9€, if you make 100k in the US this should roughly translate to 80-90k €.

Now I do get that in the US you have to take care of all kinds of insurances yourself, but it can't possibly be as much as double the salary or am I wrong?

So if someone could roughly sketch the huge salary difference that would be great.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #104

It's strange to me that these salary discussions are so narrowly focused on just pay/bonus and don't seem to care about benefits and work/life balance. Here's stuff I track in my own career spreadsheet and compare new jobs against these metrics when considering a new one: * Vacation, sick, and holiday time off * Distance to work and traffic considerations * Relative cost of living * Health insurance cost and coverage…

Maybe because it's called a simple spreadsheet of salaries. Including that other stuff would make it not just about salaries, and not simple.

So other than that, spot on.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What/where is RDU?

Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina is what it usually means, there's a lot of programming and biomedical business in the area between the 3 cities because we have 3 colleges in the area to feed new talent in for a lot of different fields. (PS: When in doubt check airport codes.)

Ah, thanks - it was the U that threw me off..

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #104

It's strange to me that these salary discussions are so narrowly focused on just pay/bonus and don't seem to care about benefits and work/life balance. Here's stuff I track in my own career spreadsheet and compare new jobs against these metrics when considering a new one: * Vacation, sick, and holiday time off * Distance to work and traffic considerations * Relative cost of living * Health insurance cost and coverage…

It's almost like if he wanted to do this and only include salary information he should have called it 'a simple spreadsheet of salaries'.

That way we'd know at least.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #133
post #104

It's strange to me that these salary discussions are so narrowly focused on just pay/bonus and don't seem to care about benefits and work/life balance. Here's stuff I track in my own career spreadsheet and compare new jobs against these metrics when considering a new one: * Vacation, sick, and holiday time off * Distance to work and traffic considerations * Relative cost of living * Health insurance cost and coverage…

Agreed! This myopic focus on salary numbers is disheartening. I'd add to the above: * culture It's related to "expected work hours per week" but tells so much more and is probably the single largest contributor to whether or not you'll like working there.

Do companies typically subscribe to an easy to define culture? Could you give some examples?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, "jump ship tomorrow salary requirement" is one of many items used to decide whether to actually jump ship or not. At the end of the day, these type of data is only one aspect to consider when deciding what to do next, or even to contemplate the next step. Having these data available adds another input into the mix.

for sure! It's not like if our example gets an email saying someone would like to hire them for $180K, then they'll drive over for an interview and hand in their notice the same day. But do you think this is information that (as I think) should be asked here? I'm thinking it can only help workers.

If you can get that type of information, why not. It could only help for a more accurate comparison.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed! This myopic focus on salary numbers is disheartening. I'd add to the above: * culture It's related to "expected work hours per week" but tells so much more and is probably the single largest contributor to whether or not you'll like working there.

Do companies typically subscribe to an easy to define culture? Could you give some examples?

The culture is what it is. When you interview, you can probe it, to get the broad strokes, but living in it will be required to know how compatible you are with it. IMO, culture comes from the top and is heavily influenced by the managers in between you and the top.
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