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Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

#21
Interesting things are happening to GAE these days. They are moving towards custom runtimes using docker that the user can configure...even their datastore API is being replaced by something resembling S3. GAE -> Google Cloud Platform.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Oh, are you kidding me? Man I got so excited when I saw the title, I already spammed the link to a couple buddies. I should have read it first. I want real GAE. Not managed VMs. I want to be able to spin up a quick GAE version on a deploy, and if it doesn't get the traffic to scale up, then it just sits there and doesn't cost me anything. Managed VM has 2+ instances running all month and is an incredible PITA to spin…

There is a easier way to spin them down now: gcloud preview app versions stop main

Well, that's good at least. Must have been very recent, I was talking to support only a couple weeks ago.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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All I know about GAE is that when my python app started being used by HN users I upgraded my account to a paid one to increase performance. In the transition , without any warning, google took the app down, for a day. Thus killing all chance of acquiring a userbase now that I had hit the frontpage. When I went onto the IRC GAE channel to ask someone for help to unlock or keep the app running during this important mom…

Do you remember the day when this IRC event took place or what nick you used? I have the logs, and would like to look into this. Also, when you say "staff member", do you mean Google's staff? The reason I'm asking is that I've been active in the GAE IRC channel for 6 years and I don't remember anything like this ever happening. I do remember a few cases where people have come with similar problems complaining that th…

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I would like to retract the statement that it was a member of staff, you are correct, this may have not been the case. It was a while ago and it may have just been someone in the know, who didn't actually work for google.

I didnt expect anyone to even notice my comment.

I should have been more careful with my statements.

I will be removing the comment when HN allows me to log back in (apparently I can log in again in about an hour).

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Interesting things are happening to GAE these days. They are moving towards custom runtimes using docker that the user can configure...even their datastore API is being replaced by something resembling S3. GAE -> Google Cloud Platform.

Cloud Datastore is more like DynamoDB, not S3. Cloud Storage is like S3. Yay names!

Custom runtimes are trying to give people the "No Ops" of App Engine with the flexibility of Compute Engine. Like always, there are tradeoffs, but more options is usually better :)

(I work for Google Cloud Platform)

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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There is a easier way to spin them down now: gcloud preview app versions stop main

Well, that's good at least. Must have been very recent, I was talking to support only a couple weeks ago.

Yeah super recent. It was one of my huge pet peeves with Managed VMs, so I'm glad it's fixed.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

#28

What version of node is supported? Currently in all other languages they are usually a major version behind (in everything).

You can specify whatever version of Node.js you want to use in the engines section of your package.json:

https://cloud.google.com/nodejs/resources/runtime#engines

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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There is a easier way to spin them down now: gcloud preview app versions stop main

Well, that's good at least. Must have been very recent, I was talking to support only a couple weeks ago.

I think technically that command is still hidden lol. You can run it, it just doesn't show up in the docs. We'll be officially releasing that one in a few weeks.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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is anyone using node.js in enterprise? because everyone seems to be convinced that the enterprise companies are going to uproot all the network of partners, developers, vendors, and billions of dollars of investment made over the past decade?

Like it or not, JVM pretty much rules the enterprise space and there's just no way to do it another way. Literally, you will be turned away because you told the IT department they should write everything in javascript and node.js. Why? Because everyone is doing it. Not good enough.

I don't know what have your real world experience been? I'm learning Java because outside of rinky dink consumer and 19.99 / month productivity apps for SME, it's viewed in a completely different lime light. Honestly, the shortcomings of Java is greatly exaggerated vs how much of it is dominating the space, and it irks me when a 19 year old CTO on the autistic spectrum claims suddenly node.js is the way to build the world's infrastructure on.

javascript is great for async programming but much work has been done to make it feel procedural. My feeling is that node.js is a hard sell for enterprises already deeply entrenched with JVM. Unless you offered the migration at a cost and undercut everyone. Not a great business imho where lower price is the only thing going for you because it never lasts. Eventually, you open source and become a grass eating goat relying on training, certification, support licenses.

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