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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by sharps »

evtothedev wrote: post #17

Does anyone know why engineering salaries are so low in Chicago? Especially with regards to city size / cost of living / amount of tech? It baffled me when I lived there, and it still baffles me when I don't.

This has been on my mind for awhile. My current theory is that Chicago companies don't need top talent and there are plenty of non-top talent engineers. simple supply and demand.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by carlmcqueen »

joshmanders wrote: post #69

This makes me wonder how many people are okay with being underpaid. Like my title is officially VP of Engineering. But because of the circumstances of my position and what I was hired to do, I am probably making less than what someone in my position gets in sign on bonuses. $30,000/yr This is because I am not only the first employee but the only employee (if you don't count CEO) and only technical person. I was hired…

All I can offer you is it only matters if you define yourself by your salary, which in my experience will only leave you feeling pretty hollow.

I have worked for companies where I was underpaid but the work was great and the co-workers were amazing and now I work for a company where the work is boring but the pay is excellent (like you, for where I live) which makes more sense for my family right now. I'm okay with it, but I miss the old work environment.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by rdtsc »

ap22213 wrote: post #58

Wow, those are some surprisingly low salaries. Anyone want to team up to do my work for me? I show up and be 'the face', and then you take 50% of what I make. We both win. Either that, or I give you all a class in negotiation. :-)

Guessing people with high salaries are probably hesitant to put them there for the fear of somehow being identified or tracked. People with lower or average salaries probably have no reservations sharing their salary.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by hk__2 »

Karunamon wrote: post #65
efuquen wrote: post #36

Wow, you're literally being downvoted for just making an observation. Pretty sad for this community.

Probably because it's a remarkably uninteresting observation, combined with weariness towards the topic of gender politics (see the mess downthread). I could have told you that HN readership skews male. Throwing the "observation" out there feels like an invitation to argue. Apparently meta-observations aren't taken well either :)

It’s one thing to think there’s a gender bias; it’s another to actually demonstrate it.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by LOLFEGGET »

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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by ceejayoz »

joshmanders wrote: post #69

This makes me wonder how many people are okay with being underpaid. Like my title is officially VP of Engineering. But because of the circumstances of my position and what I was hired to do, I am probably making less than what someone in my position gets in sign on bonuses. $30,000/yr This is because I am not only the first employee but the only employee (if you don't count CEO) and only technical person. I was hired…

I sure hope you're getting a big chunk of equity as the technical co-founder.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by aerovistae »

evtothedev wrote: post #17

Does anyone know why engineering salaries are so low in Chicago? Especially with regards to city size / cost of living / amount of tech? It baffled me when I lived there, and it still baffles me when I don't.

Easier to hire here, supposedly. Fewer tech firms by comparison to SF/NY -> less competition for applicants.

I'm in Chicago making ~95k and these threads the last couple days have been ever so mildly depressing, with people graduating same year as me and making $323k.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by melvinmt »

joshmanders wrote: post #69

This makes me wonder how many people are okay with being underpaid. Like my title is officially VP of Engineering. But because of the circumstances of my position and what I was hired to do, I am probably making less than what someone in my position gets in sign on bonuses. $30,000/yr This is because I am not only the first employee but the only employee (if you don't count CEO) and only technical person. I was hired…

Titles at startups (especially early-early stage) are somewhat negligible. Since you don't manage any engineers and not dealing with the responsibilities of a VP of Engineering of say, a 200-500 FTE startup, you shouldn't hinge too much on your title.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by LOLFEGGET »

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