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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by akhilcacharya »

antonioneffy wrote: post #55
akhilcacharya wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All depends on the area ;) Best offers I have seen out of college is $130K total comp from random people on the internet, haven't seen anything better yet.

I'm just wondering why a lot of these people with tons of experience are settling for sub-$70k jobs. Is there a reason for this?

I'm still in college, so I wouldn't have any idea. But my guess is they don't want to move to a higher COL and are settled or they just don't know how much they are worth on the open market.

One thing that I have noticed at my own school is that many of my peers undersell themselves and don't even apply to the highest paying companies despite being very qualified.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by logicallee »

yitchelle wrote: post #32

Same issues with the other salary data aggregators. Missing the following. * currency, * country, * industry, * permanent or contractor * residential status, * remote or onsite, But I agree, if the data can be trusted, this is all you need.

Good comment. What are your thoughts on including:

- "jump ship literally tomorrow salary requirement" (base, equity, signing bonus)

regardless of whether you're looking, and an anonymized means of contact. It literally can't hurt. I don't think it even gives off any signal.

I mean if you saw "$130K/undisclosed options/Bay Area/ Jump ship literally tomorrow: $180K + $15k signing bonus" it's next to no information. The only thing that can happen is you get a $180K offer in the mail, so that you can start somewhere else tomorrow. Nor does it price you out of any market, because presumably you would work for between $130K and $180K - maybe just not starting tomorrow, it would just take a LITTLE more interviewing. Nor does it show any level of dissatisfaction whatsoever to your current employer, should they put two and two together based on your skills or job title or anything else.

thoughts?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by dogma1138 »

cloakandswagger wrote: post #22
z0a wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mistake. Fixed.

I'm sorry, how exactly was it fixed? Now I can mark 'Other', but as a gender-fluid this really should be more a slider

Well if you are gender fluid then select what you identify as at the moment of filling the spreadsheet.

Or better yet select what your employer sees you as, if you are a 6'3" male with a neckbeared your employer thinks you are a man regardless if you identify yourself as male, female, neither or a walrus.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by jayhuang »

Interesting data, added my own to the list.

Not sure why I imagined there wouldn't be any blatant trolls/ads on an anonymous Google Doc survey, but most of this info is still incredibly insightful!

As a sidenote: results may be incredibly skewed as there is no currency indicator, I'd imagine lots of fellow Canadians would be putting down CAD which is currently down 24 cents...

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by Karunamon »

efuquen wrote: post #36

Wow, you're literally being downvoted for just making an observation. Pretty sad for this community.

Probably because it's a remarkably uninteresting observation, combined with weariness towards the topic of gender politics (see the mess downthread).

I could have told you that HN readership skews male. Throwing the "observation" out there feels like an invitation to argue.

Apparently meta-observations aren't taken well either :)

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by RickS »

vonmoltke wrote: post #48
eitally wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is high, but it depends on experience and who they work for. More common for people with 5-7yr experience is in the 90-110k range, but it's not abnormal to find skilled folks at places like SAS, Cisco, Citrix, Redhat, MS, Lenovo, BASF, IBM, NetApp, and many more earning above mean salaries. Source: live in RDU, was an engineering director until last summer, hired lots of people here over the years and know a bunch…

I need to look harder in RDU then, because I love North Carolina and would love the pay raise.

What's normal, in your experience, around the area? Thinking about moving out there and would love to talk more, email's in my profile.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by antonioneffy »

ap22213 wrote: post #58

Wow, those are some surprisingly low salaries. Anyone want to team up to do my work for me? I show up and be 'the face', and then you take 50% of what I make. We both win. Either that, or I give you all a class in negotiation. :-)

Yeah I'm surprised too. As a new graduate, Its kinda scary when you're making more than people with 10yrs of experience. Hope its not writing on the wall :(

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by [deleted] »

antonioneffy wrote: post #55
akhilcacharya wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All depends on the area ;) Best offers I have seen out of college is $130K total comp from random people on the internet, haven't seen anything better yet.

I'm just wondering why a lot of these people with tons of experience are settling for sub-$70k jobs. Is there a reason for this?

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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by joshmanders »

This makes me wonder how many people are okay with being underpaid. Like my title is officially VP of Engineering. But because of the circumstances of my position and what I was hired to do, I am probably making less than what someone in my position gets in sign on bonuses. $30,000/yr

This is because I am not only the first employee but the only employee (if you don't count CEO) and only technical person. I was hired to build a SaaS/Company by the owner of a company and to make that company it's first official customer of the SaaS. I'm being paid out of his pocket and the profits of his company. The pay isn't even close to what a software engineer with my experience should make, let alone the VP of Engineering. But it's above average salary in my state/area and is enough for me to live on.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by p4wnc6 »

randommodnar wrote: post #41
cloakandswagger wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And now I'm being downvoted by pro-Trump bigots

You're being downvoted because the idea of asking people to self-report their personal many-spirited gender identities on an oppressive, single-axis slider is outright offensive. You might as well literally be Hitler. We clearly need a 5-dimensional gender selector in the form of a virtual tesseract.

How dare you! My gender requires an infinite dimensional Hilbert space ... and no it is not a Reproducing Kernel Hilbert Space either!
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