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Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by Strom »

This seems to be for Managed VM [1] only, so it's a case of better documentation & tooling, but no new functionality. You can already run arbitrary code of any language on Managed VM instances.

[1] Managed VM is a sort of meet-half-way service from Google that is quite freeform like Compute Engine, but also offers access to a good chunk of App Engine's services. Still, it's very much not the standard App Engine.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by untog »

Strom wrote: post #2

This seems to be for Managed VM [1] only, so it's a case of better documentation & tooling, but no new functionality. You can already run arbitrary code of any language on Managed VM instances. [1] Managed VM is a sort of meet-half-way service from Google that is quite freeform like Compute Engine, but also offers access to a good chunk of App Engine's services. Still, it's very much not the standard App Engine.

That's disappointing. I was hoping this might be Google's answer to Amazon Lambda.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by sehr »

untog wrote: post #3
Strom wrote: post #2

This seems to be for Managed VM [1] only, so it's a case of better documentation & tooling, but no new functionality. You can already run arbitrary code of any language on Managed VM instances. [1] Managed VM is a sort of meet-half-way service from Google that is quite freeform like Compute Engine, but also offers access to a good chunk of App Engine's services. Still, it's very much not the standard App Engine.

That's disappointing. I was hoping this might be Google's answer to Amazon Lambda.

Google Cloud Functions are in alpha right now, pretty similar

https://cloud.google.com/functions/docs

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by ionwake »

All I know about GAE is that when my python app started being used by HN users I upgraded my account to a paid one to increase performance.

In the transition , without any warning, google took the app down, for a day. Thus killing all chance of acquiring a userbase now that I had hit the frontpage.

When I went onto the IRC GAE channel to ask someone for help to unlock or keep the app running during this important moment the reply from a staff member was ' You should have planned better'. I was surprised to hear this response and did not pursue the matter further. Its all in the IRC logs if any of this sounds doubtful.

TL;DR; Surprisingly, I did not find the GAE platform to be a supportive environment for startups.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by boulos »

ionwake wrote: post #5

All I know about GAE is that when my python app started being used by HN users I upgraded my account to a paid one to increase performance. In the transition , without any warning, google took the app down, for a day. Thus killing all chance of acquiring a userbase now that I had hit the frontpage. When I went onto the IRC GAE channel to ask someone for help to unlock or keep the app running during this important mom…

That's awful, I'm sorry you experienced that. It's no use to you now, but if you had gotten that message to me, I would have walked over to SRE / Support and we could have reset your quotas (I assume that's what you mean by "Took the app down for a day").

Disclaimer: I work on Compute Engine not on App Engine.

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by noiv »

Strom wrote: post #2

This seems to be for Managed VM [1] only, so it's a case of better documentation & tooling, but no new functionality. You can already run arbitrary code of any language on Managed VM instances. [1] Managed VM is a sort of meet-half-way service from Google that is quite freeform like Compute Engine, but also offers access to a good chunk of App Engine's services. Still, it's very much not the standard App Engine.

So, no SDK for node.js?

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by justinblat »

noiv wrote: post #7
Strom wrote: post #2

This seems to be for Managed VM [1] only, so it's a case of better documentation & tooling, but no new functionality. You can already run arbitrary code of any language on Managed VM instances. [1] Managed VM is a sort of meet-half-way service from Google that is quite freeform like Compute Engine, but also offers access to a good chunk of App Engine's services. Still, it's very much not the standard App Engine.

So, no SDK for node.js?

Of course there's an SDK! It's here: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-node

Re: Node.js on Google App Engine Goes Beta

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

boulos wrote: post #6
ionwake wrote: post #5

All I know about GAE is that when my python app started being used by HN users I upgraded my account to a paid one to increase performance. In the transition , without any warning, google took the app down, for a day. Thus killing all chance of acquiring a userbase now that I had hit the frontpage. When I went onto the IRC GAE channel to ask someone for help to unlock or keep the app running during this important mom…

That's awful, I'm sorry you experienced that. It's no use to you now, but if you had gotten that message to me, I would have walked over to SRE / Support and we could have reset your quotas (I assume that's what you mean by "Took the app down for a day"). Disclaimer: I work on Compute Engine not on App Engine.

I appreciate that you'd be willing to do that, but the fact that it's necessary to get a human (even a technical and helpful one such as yourself) involved to deal with this is a big red flag.
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