Alleged Assassins Caught on Dubai Surveillance Tape
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#2The amount of effort that would need to go into creating that video and the facts that the article asserts is just impressive:
-figuring out the group of people
-how everyone entered the country
-all of their phone communication while they were in the country, including finding out their numbers
-how they spent money inside the country
-their motions inside the country
-where they went after they left the country
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#3Of the two methods currently being used to deal with the militant Islamic fanatics, the 'War On Terror' has only really achieved in causing mass terror amongst our own people and imprison hundreds of innocent people because our government's criteria for 'wrong place and wrong time' were basically Afghanistan and post-invasion.
However the allegedly Israeli approach causes virtually no terror to our own people (in fact it appears to instill the exact opposite of terror), it has no collateral damage and only a minor amount of innocents get caught in the cross hairs.
What I'm wondering is if the 'Israeli' approach to militant Islamiscs the better approach? IE is it getting the job done at a better tax-payer cost and a better ethical cost (less young soldiers dead, less innocents wrongly imprisoned and less collateral damage vs. a wrong target).
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#4The amount of effort that would need to go into creating that video and the facts that the article asserts is just impressive: -figuring out the group of people -how everyone entered the country -all of their phone communication while they were in the country, including finding out their numbers -how they spent money inside the country -their motions inside the country -where they went after they left the country
They probably got it from the secret service? Those likely have most of this information in a database and can get it with the the press of a button.
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#5Of the two methods currently being used to deal with the militant Islamic fanatics, the 'War On Terror' has only really achieved in causing mass terror amongst our own people and imprison hundreds of innocent people because our government's criteria for 'wrong place and wrong time' were basically Afghanistan and post-invasion. However the allegedly Israeli approach causes virtually no terror to our own people (in fac…
The collateral damage includes political fallout, damage to bilateral relations with friendly countries, and an increase in the risk of being treated as a pariah.
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#6Of the two methods currently being used to deal with the militant Islamic fanatics, the 'War On Terror' has only really achieved in causing mass terror amongst our own people and imprison hundreds of innocent people because our government's criteria for 'wrong place and wrong time' were basically Afghanistan and post-invasion. However the allegedly Israeli approach causes virtually no terror to our own people (in fac…
The collateral damage includes political fallout, damage to bilateral relations with friendly countries, and an increase in the risk of being treated as a pariah.
Are you talking about the collateral damage of (e.g.) invading Iraq or Afghanistan? Or are you talking about the collateral damage of using hit squads to take out terrorist leaders?
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
The collateral damage includes political fallout, damage to bilateral relations with friendly countries, and an increase in the risk of being treated as a pariah.
Are you talking about the collateral damage of (e.g.) invading Iraq or Afghanistan? Or are you talking about the collateral damage of using hit squads to take out terrorist leaders?
The collateral damage of sanctioned assassinations.
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#8Of the two methods currently being used to deal with the militant Islamic fanatics, the 'War On Terror' has only really achieved in causing mass terror amongst our own people and imprison hundreds of innocent people because our government's criteria for 'wrong place and wrong time' were basically Afghanistan and post-invasion. However the allegedly Israeli approach causes virtually no terror to our own people (in fac…
The thing is who decides who gets killed and who not. You could argue that Bush caused the massacre of thousands of Iraqis, or something similar for past Israeli leaders. Does that mean that we can assassinate them? W/out even a fair trial? Once you go through that path, things get scaringly fuzzy.
It reminds me of the idea -popular in Latin America- that there are bad dictators and good dictators (pro markets, etc.). I've seen people that supposedly like freedom and democracy take a very pragmatic approach, being happy under the rule of Pinochet/Fujimori/etc.
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#9Flagged. What's this Mossad PR stunt doing on HN?
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#10Flagged. What's this Mossad PR stunt doing on HN?
I'm hoping for someone to discuss the implications as they relate to technology, PR, security, and privacy.
What technology is necessary to gather that much video so quickly? Is that video feeding into a central hub? This is Dubai, a relatively tiny country. Did they build this technology themselves or did they license it.
PR. What's to gain from releasing this? It's fascinating but long. It's definitely not put together as a soundbite, in fact it has no sound.
What are the security implications of releasing this information? Will it make future assassins think twice?
What about the privacy implications? If you were incorrectly identified as a lookout what would you do to clear your name? The story includes some Israelis who share names with the assassination team who are freaked out right now.