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Re: iPhone SE

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Post by randyrand »

coldtea wrote: post #286
tsunamifury wrote: post #35

No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.

> No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. 1) 3D Touch is not that important a part of the UI anyway, as devices are fully functional without it. 2) Developers will add it to their apps anyway, to entice high end users -- it's a very competitive landsc…

> as devices are fully functional without it.

Depends on how the app is programmed.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by kylec »

knodi123 wrote: post #348
kylec wrote: post #335

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As far as I'm aware, Apple has never removed hardware functionality on a future generation of that iOS device. I would expect the iPhone 7, 7S, 8, etc to all have 3D Touch. Now, whether they continue to integrate it into more places in the OS will remain to be seen.

except headphone jacks

That will remain to be seen. Every iPhone, iPad, and Mac Apple is selling right now has a headphone jack.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by geon »

baddox wrote: post #344
Tloewald wrote: post #75

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Although 3D touch is not widely supported (even by Apple's apps) the "trackpad" on the keyboard alone is worth it.

It's great when it works, but it's a shame that it barely works. There is clearly some state machine with lots of states that don't let you activate the trackpad.

It's really weird how you must wait a short moment after touching the keyboard until you can hard-press, or it will just ignore you. Then you let go, and now you accidentally typed a letter...

would have worked better with a button on the keyboard that turns it into a trackpad.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by jhenkens »

ProAm wrote: post #323
mrweasel wrote: post #299

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>$399 USD is great It's going to be $559 in Denmark. I had to check the prices on the other models, the cheapest 6S is $875. I never realized how expensive an iPhone is. Why anyone would buy an iPhone at those prices are beyond me. Sure, most will be buying via their carrier along with a subscription, but in most cases that will just make the phone more expensive.

All Apple products are significantly overpriced, how their consumers do not realize the are being taken advantage of is beyond me.

Depends on how much you prefer the experience of an iPhone versus an Android. There's a reason someone might choose an Audi versus a similarly equipped (engine wise) Volkwagen - it's a different experience, at a price, that some prefer.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by geon »

brianwawok wrote: post #302
Someone1234 wrote: post #234

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This is going a little off topic: But Microsoft's on-screen keyboard has the best trackpoint for doing that. Doesn't require 3D touch and works wonderfully. Looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/eX2bfHp.jpg The blue dot is always there, but the four way arrows only appear after you press it, and you can drag further away to move faster, or closer to move slower. It is one of these things that after you use it you wond…

> It is one of these things that after you use it you wonder why everyone hasn't copied it yet. Patents are very possible

Does IBM have a patent for the hardware version of it?

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by rsynnott »

nodesocket wrote: post #19

The market is not impressed with the announcements so far. http://i.imgur.com/IfkUcJ9.png

This pretty much always happens. See http://blogs-images.forbes.com/chuckjones/files/2014/09/Appl...

The only release that resulted in a substantial rise was the iPhone; the rest of them lead to nothing or a small fall. Totally standard.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by Throwaway23412 »

n0us wrote: post #332
ceejayoz wrote: post #60

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Sure, but music isn't really the sticking point anymore. Infinity Blade 3 is 1.7 GB. A single photo takes up more space than a song from an album. 40 minutes worth of 4k video maxes out the device (and that's optimistically assuming the apps that come with the phone don't take up any space).

For people like me who have no video, no games, and minimal music on their phones it's perfectly fine. I mostly just use a few messaging apps, instagram, snapchat, facebook, etc. The audience on HackerNews probably utilizes the space on their phones much more than the average consumer.

You think that the average consumer has no videos, games, or music on their phone? (And we forgetting photos and various other types of apps.)

You sound like when data plan providers say "Our average customer doesn't use that much data." Of course they don't. They try to stay within the ridiculous limits providers give them.

iOS 9 alone takes up a few GBs. The only reason the 16 GB option is the base option is because it anchors the price of iPhones. iPhones have an absurdly large profit margin, and price anchoring just provides the average consumer a psychological "out".

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by bennyg »

tlrobinson wrote: post #318
Tloewald wrote: post #75

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Although 3D touch is not widely supported (even by Apple's apps) the "trackpad" on the keyboard alone is worth it.

Wow, I've had an iPhone 6S for months and didn't realize this existed. Maybe I should check the documentation, but this also highlights the discoverability problem of 3D Touch. I guess I need to get in the habit of trying to "3D Touch" all over the place to find new features?

Wow, same here. Nifty little feature.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by noobermin »

rpgmaker wrote: post #261
noobermin wrote: post #247

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At least for all them youngins, we all use soundcloud of bandcamp for the most part. Depedent on data? Yes, but with that you get live updates of new songs or reposts from your favorite artists.

I know this is the case for many people but I'm not a big fan of streaming media to my phone. It's expensive, unnecessary (for my use case) and too unreliable to my liking. I sometimes do it but I just don't rely on it.

It might be a YMMV thing. For a lot of edm, soundcloud+bandcamp is more than enough. It's reliable enough for people with good bandwidth (I am lucky enough to be in that group), not to mention the collection is endless and well beyond anything I could fit on my phone...and it's fresher, as in when my favorite DJ/producer has a new song, I see it immediately, like it, comment to tell him/her directly, and so forth. This works well for EDM which doesn't quite follow the traditional "let's sit in a room and write 8 songs and release an album over a couple of months to years" production model. For EDM, where the rate of production is much quicker, streaming + the community makes a large part of the experience, so much so that without those social aspects, you're almost missing out.

Moreover, as many have noticed here, there are only so many minutes in a day, so the actually amount of data you'll download is limited anyway, and the fact that its SC gives you the variety, so I find myself missing very little.

However, for genres where the SC model doesn't work (or at least it isn't present), this doesn't help. When I want to listen to doom metal or psychedelic music, I'm left out and having to resort to what you do. And since I hate poor quality recordings and use flac when I can, my phone runs out of space quickly when I resort to carrying around a music collection.

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