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Re: iPhone SE

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Post by dreamfactory2 »

x1024 wrote: post #143
c-slice wrote: post #128

Why the exact same shape as the iPhone 5S? I feel like a significant reason people buy new iPhones is the idea that people will notice you have the newest model. With SE, it will just appear like you have an out of date iPhone 5. Why not round the edges like the iPhone 6?

Wut... Because the iPhone 5S had great design? Contrary to the popular meme, not all people buy Apple because they're shallow appearance-obsessed hipsters.

Looks good, but horrible in the hand. Cargo culting Braun basically. They need to revive the iPhone 3 form factor.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by betenoire »

plurinshael wrote: post #313
forrestthewoods wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly cache invalidation is one of the two hard problems in computer science. It sounds easy and simple but... it's not.

Out of curiosity... what is the other hard problem?

"There are two hard things in computer science, cache invalidation, naming things, and off by one errors."

cache invalidation: distributed resource synchronization

naming things: all things abstraction

off by one: we always fuck it up somehow

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by ProAm »

mrweasel wrote: post #299
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

>$399 USD is great It's going to be $559 in Denmark. I had to check the prices on the other models, the cheapest 6S is $875. I never realized how expensive an iPhone is. Why anyone would buy an iPhone at those prices are beyond me. Sure, most will be buying via their carrier along with a subscription, but in most cases that will just make the phone more expensive.

All Apple products are significantly overpriced, how their consumers do not realize the are being taken advantage of is beyond me.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by tambourine_man »

Zpalmtree wrote: post #287
tambourine_man wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone You can get ≈16h of 128K VBR MP3 in a single gigabyte. The real problem is video. Those guys are selling 4K devices that can barely hold a full event.

128k is pretty awful quality though.

It's not. You need great ears and even greater hardware to distinguish it from uncompressed in AB testing (on recent enough LAME encoder).

But if you must, go 192k/256k, which is pretty much guaranteed to be indistinguishable for almost all wetware/hardware combination in the world and would still get you about 12h in a gigabyte.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by thought_alarm »

otterley wrote: post #88
Negitivefrags wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because Apple has realised 3D touch is bad and it's also a very expensive feature to add to a phone. The real question is if they will admit it was a misstep by removing it from their flagship model or just keep pretending and keep it in. Companies really hate admitting they were wrong so my bet is that they are stuck with it for the forseeable future.

It works reasonably well on the Apple Watch, where screen real estate for touching "objects" is minimal. Force-touching on the notifications view, for example, is the only way to clear all notifications. That said, I've never used it on the iPhone -- if anything, Force Touch only gave us some shortcuts to actions that long-time users have already acquired "muscle memory" to perform differently (and without significan…

Force Touch is perhaps the one thing I truly dislike about the Watch.

Force Touch is just a menu button. Only it's a menu button that's extremely fussy and difficult to use.

I actually struggle to save my workouts on the Watch because after a workout when I'm sweaty and breathing heavily, it's damn near impossible to bring up the menu and save the workout.

The Watch would be a better device if it had a hardware menu button instead of Force Touch.

Same goes for the iPhone. Force Touch is only useful for bringing up the app shortcut menu, and for positioning the cursor in a text field. Those are important but utterly mundane features. You don't need a sophisticated force-sensitive screen to bring up a menu for move a cursor, and those features would be easier to use if they were not implemented using Force Touch.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by tdkl »

grandalf wrote: post #61
agildehaus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It encourages people to spend an extra $100. If the base model were 32GB, far fewer would.

If the 16GB phone would just treat the local storage like a cache for everything it would be plenty of storage. With rare exceptions the expiry rules for my usage would be quite simple. That app I use once every two months can be re-downloaded when I want to use it (it's probably less than 20 MB in size anyway).

Nextbit Robin Android phone does exactly that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SHvxSxrj4

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by mrweasel »

jokoon wrote: post #263

I still don't understand how people can spend so much money on a small device like this. I guess I'm not so much on the move, but to me, $200 is the most I would spend on such device format. I have a $60 Huawei, and yes it's not the best android, but I'll always think that software should be adapted to take less cycles, instead of just having a umpf-ier CPU. HTML is a good example of that. There should be HTML format…

>I still don't understand how people can spend so much money on a small device like this

I don't think the size is really relevant, but yeah, that's an insane amount of money. If you need it for work, and generally use your phone a lot, it can make sense to pay a premium for a better device, but for the average person, I can't see it being justified. The marked penetration of the iPhone is way to high compared to the price, suggesting to me that to many people are spending their money recklessly.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by bydo »

mrweasel wrote: post #299
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

>$399 USD is great It's going to be $559 in Denmark. I had to check the prices on the other models, the cheapest 6S is $875. I never realized how expensive an iPhone is. Why anyone would buy an iPhone at those prices are beyond me. Sure, most will be buying via their carrier along with a subscription, but in most cases that will just make the phone more expensive.

Note that the price in Denmark includes VAT, whereas the price in the US is before any taxes.

Though which comparable device would you suggest at a similar price point?

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by Steko »

robertwalsh0 wrote: post #248

I remember Jobs talking about never making a larger phone. I really wonder if it was a case of him caring about "taste" over "giving people what they want." There was some leaked Apple internal document where they said that people wanted larger phones. The post-Jobs Apple created larger phones to meet market demands. One thing that always makes me giggle, though, is the fact that if you double tap the home button the…

Aren't there more dimensions to user experience then one handed operation?

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by incepted »

tsunamifury wrote: post #35

No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.

> No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation.

Indeed.

I see this as a sign that 3D touch is not getting much traction.

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