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Re: iPhone SE

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Post by ihsw »

oconnore wrote: post #23
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

A full 24 hours worth of music (~33 complete albums) at 192 kbps is only 2GB.

I don't listen to albums anymore.

Google Play Music has spoiled me -- their station selection is vast. Albums don't even mean anything to me.

Plus I can upload all of my personal music collection to it and listen to it on the go, and it exceeds 2GB easily.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by brianwawok »

Someone1234 wrote: post #234
Tloewald wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although 3D touch is not widely supported (even by Apple's apps) the "trackpad" on the keyboard alone is worth it.

This is going a little off topic: But Microsoft's on-screen keyboard has the best trackpoint for doing that. Doesn't require 3D touch and works wonderfully. Looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/eX2bfHp.jpg The blue dot is always there, but the four way arrows only appear after you press it, and you can drag further away to move faster, or closer to move slower. It is one of these things that after you use it you wond…

> It is one of these things that after you use it you wonder why everyone hasn't copied it yet.

Patents are very possible

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by nix0n »

shostack wrote: post #266
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

My 80GB 5th gen video iPod (that's right, the clickwheel one) just gave up the ghost. Right now I'm limping on with an old 4GB iPhone 3 hand-me-down that I'm using as an iPod, since my Nexus 4 doesn't have the storage, nor battery capacity to be my music listening device. At this point I've started to come to terms with the fact that for the next few years, my phone will not be able to be my primary portable music de…

Hey, I had one of those! When mine died I replaced it with a Sansa Clip+ with an 32GB SD card, and the Rockbox firmware.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by downandout »

mratzloff wrote: post #245
downandout wrote: post #202

I know they don't talk about RAM and we won't find out until after release, but I wonder if this has 1GB or 2.

Looks like it's still 1 GB according to a leak from a few days ago. http://www.besttechguru.com/apple-iphone-se-retail-box-image... Too bad; I would love to have a smaller form factor than my 6S. I waited for awhile to upgrade from my 4S to see if they would introduce something like this, but with ad-cluttered pages, web browsing can be really painful on 1 GB.

Yeah, that's about the only reason I wouldn't buy this thing. I hate 3D touch so the fact that it's missing isn't a concern to me, but the missing ram is a huge problem.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by ska »

wahsd wrote: post #275
ska wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, someone provided me a single rational and irrefutable argument for there even being a 16 GB version. People buy them.

Sorry, but they would also buy the equally priced entry level phone that was 32 GB. Next argument, please.

No. That isn't the way it works.

They would also buy the same spec for half the price. Or an entry level for the same price with 128GB. More realistically : would it be better to have a more expensive entry level with 32GB? Maybe. Just because apple might be technically able to offer the product configuration you want them to for the price you want them to doesn't mean it is the right thing for them to do.

Here's the thing. You don't get to decide what is right, or what is better, for anyone except you.

Apple may be doing this mostly for product differentiation purposes; they may not. But whatever the rationale, it is working for them, well enough to pretty much define the category of premier smart phone. Arguing that this is somehow irrational comes across as either sour grapes or naive.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by wiml »

sotojuan wrote: post #125
mojuba wrote: post #106

> The only camera you’ll ever need. Apple, you are usually good at slogans and titles, but this one... At least three flops in one sentence: "The only camera" - so no more Canons, Nikons and Leikas? "...you'll ever" - so there will be no more innovation ever, even from you, Apple? "...need" - so you are confident everyone needs a camera?

The average consumer doesn't need a Canon, Nikon, or Leica (definitely not a Leica!) for everyday photography. The iPhone is "good enough". Of course, it's a middle/upper middle class tradition to get your teen a DSLR but as we all know the end up using the iPhone more.

"Good enough for the average consumer" isn't usually Apple's marketing message, either.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by devy »

afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

It's only $60 [1] or less to replace the iPhone NAND Flash Memory from 16GB to 128GB at Shenzhen's Huaqiangbei[2], labor included.

Obviously, it's advisable to do the upgrade after your warranty has expired. ;)

[1] http://9to5mac.com/2016/02/03/iphone-flash-storage-upgrade-s...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huaqiangbei

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by johnchristopher »

wahsd wrote: post #89
raverbashing wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's Apple being petty (price segmentation), basically. How much does 16Gb cost today, $10?

I see it as a rather significant error on their part. And to be honest, I am not quite sure why there has not been a massive revolt by app developers, content creators, and companies in general. With the OS taking up a huge chunk of that 16GB and basic functionality like messaging taking up another 700MB-1.5GB, and not even counting photos and videos than can almost take up infinite amounts of storage; little is left…

Beyond all the aesthetics and usability issues, I believe its more of business and ideology standpoint. Let me explain:

Reality 1: If there were memory card slots, easily accessible to users, then they would immediately see it as a way to put data "into" the phone. Data, here is mostly going to be movies, music, apps, etc.

    Apple's Strategy: iTunes, and now iCloud. Period.
Reality 2: If users put data "into" the phone, then Apple would lose its money-making resource of "selling" data to the users, thus iOS would not be the most profitable ecosystem; "piracy" increases at atrocious rates; the industries (music, movies, apps, etc) will lose money; they could probably revolt against Apple for letting this happen, even when it did not intend to do so.

    Apple's Strategy: No memory-card slots. Period.
Reality 3: Apple has cleverly involuted its strategies in such a way that it makes people pay for content; making iOS the best ecosystems for developers all over the world; influence the industries in a positive way; make people realize that there is joy in spending; selling cool new devices with really usable, useful, and necessary features.

    Apple's Strategy: Make the best devices. Period.
Source: https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-iPhones-have-a-memory-card-sl...

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by paride5745 »

shostack wrote: post #266
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

My 80GB 5th gen video iPod (that's right, the clickwheel one) just gave up the ghost. Right now I'm limping on with an old 4GB iPhone 3 hand-me-down that I'm using as an iPod, since my Nexus 4 doesn't have the storage, nor battery capacity to be my music listening device. At this point I've started to come to terms with the fact that for the next few years, my phone will not be able to be my primary portable music de…

I have a Moto G 3rd gen with a 64GB SD.

I've sold my iPod touch 5th gen 64GB as I wasn't using it anymore since moving to a smartphone + big sd.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by unprepare »

shostack wrote: post #266
afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

My 80GB 5th gen video iPod (that's right, the clickwheel one) just gave up the ghost. Right now I'm limping on with an old 4GB iPhone 3 hand-me-down that I'm using as an iPod, since my Nexus 4 doesn't have the storage, nor battery capacity to be my music listening device. At this point I've started to come to terms with the fact that for the next few years, my phone will not be able to be my primary portable music de…

sandisk makes mp3 players with microSD card slots for around 30$ [1]

and 64GB microsd cards are only ~30 bucks also [2], you can get 128GB microsd cards for under 50$ pretty easy

Putting you at 8GB+128GB for less than a hundred bucks.

Haven't done it myself, but have been thinking about it.

[1]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXMY262?ref_=zg_bs_12648...

[2]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_3015433011_nr_p_n_feature_two...

[3]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_3015433011_nr_p_n_feature_two...

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