The market is not impressed with the announcements so far. http://i.imgur.com/IfkUcJ9.png
The market is probably ignoring the announcement. Anything less than a 1.5% change is pretty much noise and random jitter (APPL is currently down .5%).
iPhone SE
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Re: iPhone SE
#72As a stubborn iPhone 4 user, I was excited for this press conference because of the return to a smaller form factor. I'm not sure the SE is going to push me over the edge just yet, despite the price. Think I can hold out for a couple more months, just in case something amazing happens with the 7.
You're using a 6 year old, 3.5 inch phone. 7 is going to be bigger than 5, 5S, 5SE, I would upgrade if I were you. Can iphone 4 even get iOS 9?
Yes I understand 7 is going to be bigger than the 5S/SE size. I'm willing to go bigger if there something really compelling about the 7, so I want to wait.
(and 4 is stuck on iOS 7)
Re: iPhone SE
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am always surprised by these expansive US plans. In France for instance, you can have 50 GB LTE for 20 € per month (with Free). In Austria, 10 GB LTE for 15 € is not uncommon.
France is pretty unique and shows that in most countries telco's act as a cartel to keep prices inflated artificially.
It's hardly unique. Here in Finland, the prices are comparable, though data caps are rare. 20€/mo gets you LTE with some bundled calls and SMS. Rest of the Nordics should be fairly similar. Currently I pay 18€/mo for my 50Mbps uncapped LTE, I use it as my home connection.
Re: iPhone SE
#74Curious that the Sensors list does not include a barometer. It used to be the case that the A9 with coprocessor carried a barometer inside it. Has this changed for this phone? That would be incredibly sad if they removed sensors. Did the M9 iteration of the coprocessor remove the barometer?
http://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/
Edit: Interestingly, the new iPad Pro does have a barometer in the Sensor list: http://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/
Re: iPhone SE
#75No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.
It's because Apple has realised 3D touch is bad and it's also a very expensive feature to add to a phone. The real question is if they will admit it was a misstep by removing it from their flagship model or just keep pretending and keep it in. Companies really hate admitting they were wrong so my bet is that they are stuck with it for the forseeable future.
Although 3D touch is not widely supported (even by Apple's apps) the "trackpad" on the keyboard alone is worth it.
Re: iPhone SE
#76Hey, an upgrade path for the 5s form-factor. I'm actually liking this announcement. The absurd size has been why I've avoided 6.
Re: iPhone SE
#77Re: iPhone SE
#78No 3D touch shows you how important Apple views it. It adds a level of inconsistency amongst their phones meaning developers can never depend on it which means it'll likely get used less and less.
Oh well it was a neat idea but adding multiple dimensions to a 2D screen always seemed kinda awkward to me.
Re: iPhone SE
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Complete with the loud BING as the startup sound?
Not to burst your bubble, but the sampled startup sounds didn't come until after the SE. The SE just went BEEEEEEEEEP .
Not sure what process generated that tone, but it really was a bell-like BINNNNGGGG and not a flat PC buzzer-like BEEP. At least, that's the sound I remember from the 512K and the Plus - I never had an SE myself, so I am assuming it used the same sound as the original models.
Re: iPhone SE
#80No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.
3D touch was a gimmick anyways, I am happy to see it go. It was weird and uncanny and there were only a few applications where it made sense.
See it go? I'd wait for the iPhone 7 event to see if 3D Touch is left to the history books.