iPhone SE • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by grandalf » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:10 PM UTC

agildehaus wrote: post #13

afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

It encourages people to spend an extra $100. If the base model were 32GB, far fewer would.

If the 16GB phone would just treat the local storage like a cache for everything it would be plenty of storage. With rare exceptions the expiry rules for my usage would be quite simple. That app I use once every two months can be re-downloaded when I want to use it (it's probably less than 20 MB in size anyway).

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by masklinn » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:10 PM UTC

agildehaus wrote: post #15

yeukhon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be in your camp but honestly, after using iPhone 6 (not PLUS) I am okay. I actually don't use my phone all the time. It is mainly sitting on my desk or in my pocket on the go. My hand is not huge per se, just regular size, like any grown up male in his 20s. Comparing to the old model with smaller screen, the larger screen does increase read space which is quite pleasant. Give it a try.

If you really want to use an iPhone 6 or 6 Plus with one hand, just double-tap ( not press, tap) the home button and the software adjusts the display size for you.

Except IME it's not very good because (with a 6S) you have to hold the phone very low to reach the home button comfortably enough for a double tap (which is lower than extending a bit for a firm press), which makes the phone top-heavy and much less hand-safe. I've dropped my 6S a lot, I've probably dropped it more in the few months I've had it than I dropped my 4S (at all)

I expect a Plus has an even worse hold and I wouldn't be able to use it 1-handed at all.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by agumonkey » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:11 PM UTC

dep_b wrote: post #47

programLyrique wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am always surprised by these expansive US plans. In France for instance, you can have 50 GB LTE for 20 € per month (with Free). In Austria, 10 GB LTE for 15 € is not uncommon.

France is pretty unique and shows that in most countries telco's act as a cartel to keep prices inflated artificially.

It wasn't much different before Free mobile kick in the hive.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by yoz-y » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:11 PM UTC

Negitivefrags wrote: post #52

tsunamifury wrote: post #35

No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.

It's because Apple has realised 3D touch is bad and it's also a very expensive feature to add to a phone. The real question is if they will admit it was a misstep by removing it from their flagship model or just keep pretending and keep it in. Companies really hate admitting they were wrong so my bet is that they are stuck with it for the forseeable future.

Says who? 3D touch is an awesome addition. Granted it has discoverability problems but I think that adding a new dimension to the interaction is great. It is a nice way to avoid a cluttered interface while providing advanced power-user functionality.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by acomjean » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:11 PM UTC

afreak wrote: post #10

$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…

I think the use case is older people (my parents..) that mainly use it as a phone and not much else. It wasteful though as it really kills future functionality and makes the phone get tossed earlier. (although they can be recycled I'm betting a lot aren't). Especially interesting given the keynotes emphasis on recycling/renewable resources.

on the plus side, they kept the headphone jack (no new headphones required).

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by manuelflara » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:11 PM UTC

Weird they didn't call this the iPhone 6S Mini, but I'll be getting one. Downgraded from an iPhone 6S to a 5S because the big screen is hard to use with one hand, so I'm ecstatic they released this.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by rythie » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:12 PM UTC

I wonder if this will get updated in September with the other phones or stay out of step with the main release cycle.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by jonkiddy » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:12 PM UTC

giarc wrote: post #27

dham wrote: post #9

I'm one of those hold outs. I had a iPhone 6 for a month and it literally gave me anxiety because I couldn't thumb around Spotify and other apps like I was used too. I traded it in for a 5s and have been using it ever since. I figured I would have to keep it until they stopped putting iOS updates on it. Really glad they did this.

I predict they will sell a ton of the SE's. I'm in the same boat, the 5S was great and the 4.7" and larger screens just seem too big. I have been waiting for the SE to come out.

Agreed. My 5S broke over winter, 4.7" was too big as a replacement. I tested a 6 in my jeans pocket and it felt odd to me. I immediately purchased another 5S instead.

Looking forward to a SE.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by giarc » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:12 PM UTC

maxaf wrote: post #46

giarc wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not upgrade to a 5 or 5S now though? The 4S is quite a ways behind, and with the 5 and even the 5S being out for so long, you could get some great deals.

It all comes down to AppleCare: I don't want to own an aftermarket phone that isn't covered for damage by anything other than my own wallet. The 5/5S can only remain a viable option for me if they're sold directly by Apple & allow me to purchase AppleCare. Anything less means I take on the risk of having to keep repairing/replacing the phone every time it breaks. Unfortunately, this happens far too often.

I could be wrong but I believe Apple is still selling the 5S's (can't check now as the apple store is down). Could also likely buy through carrier and purchase applecare through them as well.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by scope » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:12 PM UTC

dham wrote: post #9

I'm one of those hold outs. I had a iPhone 6 for a month and it literally gave me anxiety because I couldn't thumb around Spotify and other apps like I was used too. I traded it in for a 5s and have been using it ever since. I figured I would have to keep it until they stopped putting iOS updates on it. Really glad they did this.

> couldn't thumb around...

Double tapping the home button makes the top of the screen reachable

That being said, I too still use iPhone 5S & I don't think I'll make the switch, 4K video & 2nd generation Touch ID are nice but I WANT 3D Touch. I understand why they're not there yet --- they had to shove some of the battery on the 6S to fit in the 3D hardware.

EDIT: seems they stuck with the first generation Touch ID? (6S and SE) [1]

http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/