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Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by DonHopkins »

Negative1 wrote: post #20
DonHopkins wrote: post #11

I had big problems with the "Angel List" web site, because it was extremely flakey and appeared to be a typical piece of garbage that some dime-a-dozen huckster with very little experience had just thrown together after watching the Ruby on Rails Make Your Own Trendy Dot Com Crud Web Site in 10 Minutes screencast. Major features were totally broken. Many things about the design were devoid of thought and just haphaza…

Insulting, bordering on abusive hyperbole. You seem to have a major chip on your shoulder. Did Angel List eat your baby or something? Also, if you hate them so much but seem to have some sort of reliance on their service, why not take yourself off the site and make a competing product?

I don't make a competing product because I don't have 10 minutes to watch a Ruby on Rails screencast.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by gedrap »

Negative1 wrote: post #20
DonHopkins wrote: post #11

I had big problems with the "Angel List" web site, because it was extremely flakey and appeared to be a typical piece of garbage that some dime-a-dozen huckster with very little experience had just thrown together after watching the Ruby on Rails Make Your Own Trendy Dot Com Crud Web Site in 10 Minutes screencast. Major features were totally broken. Many things about the design were devoid of thought and just haphaza…

Insulting, bordering on abusive hyperbole. You seem to have a major chip on your shoulder. Did Angel List eat your baby or something? Also, if you hate them so much but seem to have some sort of reliance on their service, why not take yourself off the site and make a competing product?

>>> why not take yourself off the site and make a competing product?

A counter-argument in the form of "if you criticize something, make something better" is just really weak.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by afshin »

I quit using AngelList when a recruiter confirmed that he'd seen that my profile was actively browsing the site. The old adage about who is the customer and who is the product rang so true with AngelList. I hadn't realized that it was even possible to build a scammier version of LinkedIn until that point.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by Animats »

This might be "false personation" under California law. See California penal code 529.[1] This is slightly different from identity theft. It's a criminal offense. The key elements of this offense are that someone else impersonated you in some way, and they derived some benefit from doing so. Because this is a criminal offense, AngelList's TOS's arbitration clause does not apply. You can file a police report with the SFPD. If several people do that, something might be done about it.

[1] http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&gr...

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by chris_wot »

joshfraser wrote: post #6

They do the same impersonation trick to confirm investors and co-founders as well. It gives them cleaner data & is great for growth.

That's extraordinarily unethical. I doubt I'd need to use them, but if I ever have the opportunity, I won't.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by etjossem »

SirNoobsAlot wrote: post #17

Want to know something funnier? I am a non-HR and non-recruiter employee at my company and I can see recruiting tab (angel.co/candidates). On a related note, I try to avoid applying to jobs through AngelList. I'll usually go directly to the company website itself and apply.

I second this and it's arguably scarier than OP. I've seen this tab before - it shows everyone in our industry who has ever expressed interest in our company through AngelList. It lets me CRUD job listings and contact/reject any candidate. Presumably I got this incredibly far-reaching access simply because I was confirmed as one of 50 employees with an AngelList account. As far as I know, there was no intervention or approval from our recruiting lead.

From applicant perspective: as soon as you apply for a job through AngelList, everyone who ever works at that company (now and future) can trivially find you and decide your fate.

This is really uncomfortable from the company's perspective too. I could just as easily have been an employee who isn't expected to recruit / shouldn't be making first contact with candidates / shouldn't be able to touch job listings.

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