Say what you want about ending the drug war, but I'm not quite in support of creating a whole new tobacco industry.
Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
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Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
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What scares me is that we've pursued this in such 'medical' terms. It really influences how people think. Remember when it seemed insane to see advertisments about how "8 out of 10 doctors recommend ___ brand cigarettes"? It doesn't seem crazy to me now that there is so much "health" based marketing around marijuana.
And how the tobacco companies are evil and terrible but hey! Wanna smoke pot? That's all GOOD! Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
Looking at the bigger picture (if your intent is decreasing harm), I would work on limiting the alcohol advertising before trying to hinder the already limited marijuana advertising.
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
What scares me is that we've pursued this in such 'medical' terms. It really influences how people think. Remember when it seemed insane to see advertisments about how "8 out of 10 doctors recommend ___ brand cigarettes"? It doesn't seem crazy to me now that there is so much "health" based marketing around marijuana.
And how the tobacco companies are evil and terrible but hey! Wanna smoke pot? That's all GOOD! Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
> Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods.
All of these requirements are implemented in the Washington state roll out. Re: discouraged, there are radio ads warning parents to talk to their kids about the dangers of marijuana. There is zero advertising and everything is behind counters at special stores that don't sell anything else.
> Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
Hey, why leave out the other big sin drug? Alcohol gets a lot more free roam in advertising and sale/visibility in stores minors can visit.
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
And how the tobacco companies are evil and terrible but hey! Wanna smoke pot? That's all GOOD! Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
are you serious? thc and nicotine are two different drugs. they are different . they do different things. and the sky is blue and 2 plus 2 equals 4. you don't have to smoke cannabis to get thc. you can eat it, and many people do. if you just don't like the idea of it, that's one thing and completely understandable, but claiming (even rhetorically) it's the same as tobacco is one of the stupidest things i've ever read…
>> claiming (even rhetorically) it's the same as tobacco is one of the stupidest things i've ever read on hn
Fools read and hear what they want to hear and then make something up and say that's what was said.
Tobacco - breathe non-air stuff into your lungs enough, it kills you.
Pot - breathe non-air stuff into your lungs enough, it kills you.
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
And how the tobacco companies are evil and terrible but hey! Wanna smoke pot? That's all GOOD! Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
are you serious? thc and nicotine are two different drugs. they are different . they do different things. and the sky is blue and 2 plus 2 equals 4. you don't have to smoke cannabis to get thc. you can eat it, and many people do. if you just don't like the idea of it, that's one thing and completely understandable, but claiming (even rhetorically) it's the same as tobacco is one of the stupidest things i've ever read…
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Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
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are you serious? thc and nicotine are two different drugs. they are different . they do different things. and the sky is blue and 2 plus 2 equals 4. you don't have to smoke cannabis to get thc. you can eat it, and many people do. if you just don't like the idea of it, that's one thing and completely understandable, but claiming (even rhetorically) it's the same as tobacco is one of the stupidest things i've ever read…
>> claiming (even rhetorically) it's the same as tobacco is one of the stupidest things i've ever read on hn Fools read and hear what they want to hear and then make something up and say that's what was said. Tobacco - breathe non-air stuff into your lungs enough, it kills you. Pot - breathe non-air stuff into your lungs enough, it kills you.
i don't think that's how science determines if two things are the same. i think you just made that up because it sounds clever. unfortunately, that's not how things work in reality.
i also don't think you understand that you don't have to smoke pot. you can eat it. in medicine this is called 'oral administration'. you can't just ignore facts you don't like, that's not how medicine and science work.
most drugs are eaten. pot is a drug. you can eat it. you can use drugs to treats disease and symptoms. therefore, you can use pot to treat diseases and symptoms... by eating it.
i don't understand what your mental disconnect is, other than you just don't like the idea of pot, which is fine, but you should just say that, because then it becomes a moral argument, which is what you're trying to have, rather than a medical one, which is pretty black and white - pot is a drug, and you can use drugs to treat diseases and symptoms. that's pretty much a fact. again, i'm not really sure where the disconnect here is for you. this is a pretty simple logical chain. maybe you don't consider pot to be a drug?
i've never met anyone who doesn't think pot is a drug, but i suppose it's possible.
but really i think you just don't like the idea of it, which is a perfectly respectable opinion to have.
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
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are you serious? thc and nicotine are two different drugs. they are different . they do different things. and the sky is blue and 2 plus 2 equals 4. you don't have to smoke cannabis to get thc. you can eat it, and many people do. if you just don't like the idea of it, that's one thing and completely understandable, but claiming (even rhetorically) it's the same as tobacco is one of the stupidest things i've ever read…
I don't know why you wouldn't think he was serious. I think you are ignoring that the vast majority of people that use pot smoke it. In that sense, it's probably worse because most people that smoke weed tend to hold the smoke in their lungs for protracted periods of time which increases the amount of tar that gets in their lungs.
I know this is completely anecdotal, but I think casual pot smokers do about two or three bong hits a night versus sneaking out for an entire cigarette twenty times a day.
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
#18Terrifying, as the distribution of marijuana in the United States remains a federal crime, allowing anyone in this industry to be legally locked up at any time by the feds. Someone once told me that this is how most of China operates; there are many common day-to-day things (such as money transfers) that close to 100% of the population engages in that are completely illegal, yet tolerated. When a person does somethin…
It is a very precarious situation which I think extends beyond the marijuana industry, even in the US. What you said about China reminded me of the book Three Felonies A Day, which explains how modern federal crime laws put US citizens in a similar position of being extorted at the whims of the state.
It seems like there could be an opportunity for some kind of mutual aid arrangement -- an insurance policy of sorts -- that could underwrite the legal fees for a member who happens to get busted.
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
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And how the tobacco companies are evil and terrible but hey! Wanna smoke pot? That's all GOOD! Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
> Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. All of these requirements are implemented in the Washington state roll out. Re: discouraged, there are radio ads warning parents to talk to their kids about the dangers of marijuana. There is zero advertising and everything…
I live in Washington State and there is advertising. Giant billboards for pot companies. They don't directly advertise smoking pot, but who's kidding, everyone knows what they're advertising...
Re: Legal marijuana sales forecast to hit $23B in 4 years
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And how the tobacco companies are evil and terrible but hey! Wanna smoke pot? That's all GOOD! Marijuana should be legal but discouraged, not permitted to be advertised, put in plain packaging, kept behind counters and not turned into novelty products that appeal to teenagers like foods. Hard to see how it's much different to tobacco really.
Looking at the bigger picture (if your intent is decreasing harm), I would work on limiting the alcohol advertising before trying to hinder the already limited marijuana advertising.
Let's also ban advertising for prescription drugs while we're at it too. America and New Zealand are the only two countries that allow this and it's turned pharma companies into pill pushers instead of companies trying to find and produce cures for real diseases...