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Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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> Please use US dollars, thanks! Free currency converter http://www.xe.com/

Ah, too late. And I don't think that's a good idea. Exchange rates vary. Comparing within a country/region/city makes a lot more sense than across the world. Let people input their salary in the local currency.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #25

Take aside legal aspects, why wouldn't any employee share their salary with their peers? All the secrecy just create noise, how could transparency be bad? I only see some incentive from the company's pov, you can position yourself somewhat better at bargaining salaries, when your employee has no access to the same data to debate, thus lowering costs a few percents. What am I missing?

If you on the high end of the pay scale, then sharing your information can hurt you. When it comes time to negotiate a raise, the company could be reluctant to give you a raise knowing that your peers will also expect a similar raise. If you keep your salary a secret, when it comes time to ask for even more money, then the company could be more likely to offer it since it will not have repercussions across the whole…

Actualy transparency acts to bid up the going rate for the job you can see that effect in how CEO pay has increased.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

#64
The assumption here is that salary is set by forces beyond the employee's control, and it's either fair or unfair. I would argue that everyone's salary is fair, b/c it's set at what the employee negotiated for. If you accepted a salary offer as-is, then that's what you get. If you feel your salary is unfair, then contact your boss and negotiate for more. I won't get into all the tactics of negotiation, but it works the same for salary as for a used car. It will help to have as much leverage as you can get, for example an open job offer at the salary you want.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

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post #51
post #25

Take aside legal aspects, why wouldn't any employee share their salary with their peers? All the secrecy just create noise, how could transparency be bad? I only see some incentive from the company's pov, you can position yourself somewhat better at bargaining salaries, when your employee has no access to the same data to debate, thus lowering costs a few percents. What am I missing?

Volunteer's dilemma. If everyone tells (honestly), it benefits the group as a whole. If only one tells, it would be to that individual's disadvantage, since she'll be seen as violating company secrecy policy. Some companies do set wages as confidential info.

> Some companies do set wages as confidential info.

This is unlawful in many jurisdictions, including California and the United Kingdom.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

#67

Just posted this to the other discussion, but it bears just the same. This is just going to be a collection of anecdotes from people who self-select to report because they feel good about where they're at, or because they feel righteously justified in complaining about their situation. Self-selection ruins the data. The responses have to be random to be useful. And the silly thing is that most people who are involved…

> Self-selection ruins the data.

Exactly. This is the issue that people who say "doesn't Glassdoor already do this?" minimize, and miss the point of why public salaries would be amazing in terms of improving labor markets.

I think for anyone who is big into "free markets", there is an unresolved tension between "it's better if we let things continue as they are" and "a market always operates better when it has more information". I don't understand why so many staunch advocates for free markets easily opt for the former.

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

#69
Am I the only one that feels shaky sharing my salary? I work at a start up and if I share my position and company it won't really be anonymous, as I am the only person at the company with that position. I do agree its nice for people to post their salaries so i know if I'm underpaid. But what if I'm overpaid, or at least played more than most at my company? What will that do to people I work with who find or how much I'm paid? It makes me a little uneasy to think my friends might find out I make more than them, I don't really want to flaunt my pay. I'm not saying I am overpaid, but that is the thought that gets in my way from sharing my salary on sites like this and glassdoor. I always assumed because of this salaries on glassdoor where scewed to the lower spectrum. Am I alone in this?

Re: Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you on the high end of the pay scale, then sharing your information can hurt you. When it comes time to negotiate a raise, the company could be reluctant to give you a raise knowing that your peers will also expect a similar raise. If you keep your salary a secret, when it comes time to ask for even more money, then the company could be more likely to offer it since it will not have repercussions across the whole…

Actualy transparency acts to bid up the going rate for the job you can see that effect in how CEO pay has increased.

I read a really interesting account of how public disclosure of lawyer salaries led to a boom in the 90s.

Finance people also are very brazen about how much they're making, from accounts I've read.

Doctors too.

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