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Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by YetAnotherMSEng »

Microsoft employee, not Amazon, but these sort of discussions absolutely need to happen and I'd like to do my part.

Salary: $115k base, no regular bonus or stock, $50k offer in stock over 4 years if I remember correctly although I don't know offhand how many units that came out to.

Level: SWE1 (60 internally)

Tenure: 2 years internally, 7 in industry

Yearly pay increase: Averaged ~6k/y thus far.

Internal candidates have NO leverage. The only way to get a promo is to be in the right place at the right time, and have both high visibility and a manager who has proper political influence and will fight for you. If you want a salary boost, leave and come back a year or so later. "Performance" reviews, accomplishments, hours put in, is all moot unless you have the above, in which case it's a nice bit of ammo if your skip level has a lot of competition for his promo budget, but proper political clout can likely force through a promo without. (To add another tidbit that I've always wanted to clear up anonymously: Stack ranking absolutely still exists, if not in a formal process but as a necessity from how budgets are assigned and promos divvied up.)

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by msemployee »

MS employee here, with a bit of anonymization

Location: Seattle area

Gender: Male

Category [1]: White

English native: no

Age: 35-40

Years in MS: 5

Title [2]: Senior SDE

Level [2]: 63

Hiring bonus: 0

Base salary: ~$140k

Annual bonus: ~16k

Annual stocks: ~17k (over 5 years)

Annual benefits: ~$25k

[1] http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/interactives/multiracial-time...

[2] http://geekologist.co/decoding-microsofts-sde-titles-and-lev...

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by arcticfox »

MacsHeadroom wrote: post #192
chm wrote: post #97

You're not getting "ripped off" by having a base salary of 125K USD (with benefits and equity) fresh out of college. Tell you what, with a Bachelor's in Chemistry (in my year 176 people started, only 42 finished the degree so it's not a free lunch) I can expect to make between 40K and 60K CAD out of college and pay higher taxes than in the US. With a master's that I'm working towards, I'd be on the upper end of that…

>I can expect to make between 40K and 60K CAD out of college A chemical engineer with a BS in Alberta can make $120k CAD base-pay, easily. >and pay higher taxes than in the US. A San Franciscan making $120k USD pays $46,176 USD in taxes (state+fed) An Albertan making $120k CAD pays just $32,974 CAD in taxes (prov+fed) When software engineers want $120k, they move to SF/Seattle and work for . If you want $120k, move t…

> The vast majority of software engineers (let-alone 'entry level' SEs) in the US aren't making six figures.

While I'm sure this is true in the total sense (there are a LOT of bad software engineers), decent and good ones should be making over $100k easily.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by p4wnc6 »

kybernetikos wrote: post #300
p4wnc6 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The candidate could put their minimum acceptable salary in an envelope. The employer could put their maximum acceptable salary in an envelope. The two parties could agree with a third party arbiter that if the maximum from the employer is larger than the minimum from the candidate, the salary will be set to the midpoint between the two numbers, and otherwise, no deal can be reached so both walk away. That's one way,…

You don't need the trusted third party. You could share the hash of the numbers so they couldn't be changed during the process, then do the millionaires problem [1] to find out which number was bigger, and finally and only if the right one is bigger, share the figures (setting the salary at the midpoint is the same as sharing the figures in terms of information transfer) and calculate it that way. The only way to not…

That sounds an awful lot like a cryptographic protocol to me. And CNN told me that cryptography helps terrorists. ... You're a witch!

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by throwa123arst »

throwaway75383 wrote: post #93

Position: SDE III Tenure: almost 1 year Job level: 6 Base Pay: $150000 Signing bonus $50k year 1, $40k year 2 Stock: 450 shares, spread over 4 years, 5%/15%/40%/40% No promotions or reviews yet Gender: M Native English Speaker: Yes Location: Seattle

I'm a TPM III, 10 year experience in consulting before coming to Amazon, former developer and dev lead. Been at Amazon 18 months.

Base is $145k. Signing bonus $50k year 1, $40k year 2. Stock 350 shares over 4 years. 5%/15%/40%/40% No promotions or reviews yet.

In summary: about $200k total comp first two years, from then on variable based on stock. I expect about $225 to $250k in 2016.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by vanrysss »

qaid wrote: post #98

I work in Portland, have 5 years of experience, and I'm making about 90k after bonuses (no stock or sign-on bonus). I love Portland, my hours are very nice (~35hours), and I have a good amount of technical freedom. But boy....Maybe I should make the move up to Seattle. It'd be nice if people mentioned how many hours/week they work for me to get a good idea of what to expect. Especially since we're talking about Amazo…

There's plenty of money to be had in Portland. Drop Airbnb, Nike, or any of the myriad of startups in town a line.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by duaneb »

randommodnar wrote: post #287
duaneb wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Competitive internships will offer 2-2.5X that.

Really? I went through the co-op program at my university and the pay range for everybody going into software was basically $15-25/hr, although I didn't hear of a single person getting over $20.

> Really? I went through the co-op program at my university and the pay range for everybody going into software was basically $15-25/hr, although I didn't hear of a single person getting over $20.

By competitive, I mean microsoft, facebook, and google. This could be naïve of me, but that's how they position themselves.

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Post by horsecaptin »

yeukhon wrote: post #262
betenoire wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Careful, they can fire you for NO reason, but they can't fire you for ANY reason.

So they can just fire you, have an escort and done?

That's right. "Thank you for all your hard work. We no longer need your services".

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by akhilcacharya »

gravypod wrote: post #65
seattle_googler wrote: post #46

Seattle Googler here (throwaway account). Position: Senior Software Engineer (level 5) Tenure: 4 years, no prior experience Comp: $300K (160 salary, 40 bonus, 100 stock) Male, native English speaker P.S. We're hiring.

If you're hiring, do you take college students for interviews? I've never been clear about the google hiring process and I've always heard mixed things from people who went through it.

...really? I was under the impression everybody that reads HN would have been around the Google-or-similar hiring circuit at least once. I have twice and I'm not as experienced as you are.

Daily 10K I guess.

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