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Sure down vote BUT defend your opposition to the point of this blog post that I pointed out. It is 100% not RPM issues that this person is talking about. Okay so by the down votes I guess people prefer to think RPM is bad and won't take anything from anyone pointing out how it works and that the article used was full of holes by someone that doesn't understand package management. I SAID STUPID: Ye sit is stupid to re…
"this guy" and "this person" with the "stupid blog post" is Felix von Leitner, for reference. Understand that, and understand things like diet libc, libowfat, and minit, and you will understand some of the bases of M. von Leitner's opinions here. * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_von_Leitner * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_von_Leitner
Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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But what is 'the community' to you? To many Slackware users it's precisely the mailing list, the LinuxQuestions forum, the subreddit (/r/slackware), things like slackbuilds.org and docs.slackware.com. So what is missing from what Slackware currently offers that would make have 'the community' to you?
Based on what I have seen elsewhere (other distros and other major software projects), I am saying it would benefit greatly from a better approach.
Okay, you're talking in circles.
What would you like them to do differently in their approach? What could they do differently that would engage you better?
Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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So do it.
No way. The NIH is strong.
So I go down the thread from above, asking you what you would do, and your response is "nothing, don't bother trying to bring me into the fold, I'm just going to complain"?
I'd appreciate it if next time just you would just say "I'm just complaining" so I know not to waste my time.
Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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Alternatives include CRUX (whose maintainer's systemd stance is "over my dead body :)"), Void Linux (the only distro I know of to adopt systemd by default and then migrate away from it; currently it uses runit with systemd as an option), and Alpine. I'm sticking with Slack for the time being, but I've got my eye out for alternatives should the worst happen.
I've also played a little bit with Devuan, which is basically just Debian without systemd, and it seemed to work pretty well.
To be quite honest I didn't have much faith in Devuan as lasting beyond the "publicity stunt" phase, so it's remarkable to me that it's still around.
Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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Based on what I have seen elsewhere (other distros and other major software projects), I am saying it would benefit greatly from a better approach.
Okay, you're talking in circles. What would you like them to do differently in their approach? What could they do differently that would engage you better?
Yeah I am going to end the philology here. My advice and concerns above is more than enough.
Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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Is there an equivalent to apt-get update && upgrade or do you need to track down each source/binary to keep things secured ?
slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all. See http://slackpkg.org/documentation.html . slackpkg is a part of Slackware, installed by default. If you really like apt, you can use slapt-get (and slapt-src) http://software.jaos.org/ . After answering this f. question with the same f. answer for literally 10 years, I'm starting to feel that some kind of re-branding would be a good thing for Slackware. It doesn't matter wh…
Thanks, I'll spin a VM with it.
Indeed some rebranding for slackware may be a good idea since its reputation suffers from misconceptions and outdated irrelevant truths.
Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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I remember this, trying to install various dependencies. It was a complete nightmare.
I'm a lazy end user. AlienBob has binaries of his slackbuilds for download and the Microlinux Desktop (Nicholas Kovacks) provides a range of binary builds for a nice xfce4 desktop. 14.2: microlinux builds are on hold a bit until 14.2 gets more stable. There is also the slackonly binaries that are built from the slackbuild scripts at slackbuilds.org. Not sure how maintained slackonly is but many of the 14.1 builds wor…
Yes, I used a lot of alien's packages. IIRC, there was no Inkscape so I had to do it manually.
Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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I'm a lazy end user. AlienBob has binaries of his slackbuilds for download and the Microlinux Desktop (Nicholas Kovacks) provides a range of binary builds for a nice xfce4 desktop. 14.2: microlinux builds are on hold a bit until 14.2 gets more stable. There is also the slackonly binaries that are built from the slackbuild scripts at slackbuilds.org. Not sure how maintained slackonly is but many of the 14.1 builds wor…
Yes, I used a lot of alien's packages. IIRC, there was no Inkscape so I had to do it manually.
To save some electricity for anyone else... Nicholas Kovack's microlinux has inkscape 0.91 binaries compiled for both 14.1 and 14.2.
The 14.2 32 bit version is working fine. You just need the inkscape package from
http://www.microlinux.fr/microlinux/desktop-14.2-32bit/slack...
On 14.1 you will need more libraries to support Inkscape version 0.91. I found these worked...
atkmm-2.22.7-i486-1_microlinux.txz
cairomm-1.10.0-i486-1_microlinux.txz
glibmm-2.36.2-i486-1_microlinux.txz
gsl-1.16-i486-1_microlinux.txz
gtkmm-2.24.4-i486-1_microlinux.txz
inkscape-0.91-i486-1_microlinux.txz
libsigc++-2.2.11-i486-1_microlinux.txz
pangomm-2.34.0-i486-1_microlinux.txzRe: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1
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I'm not the commentator, but Mint is Ubuntu, except they've already done all of the grunt work to make it useful (like making codecs available and prettifying it up). At least 2 years ago when I ran it exclusively, it was accurately described as Ubuntu-based, not Ubuntu, just like Ubuntu is Debian-based, not Debian. But the similarities are (or at least were) much closer between it and Ubuntu than Ubuntu and Debian.…
Thank you. No difference worth making is precisely why I didn't make it.
What I said was un-supportive and deconstructive, i sincerely apologize. I will try to contribute more positively in the open source community, of which I am a big fan, and meant to disrespect towards.
edit: I have spent a lot of time bouncing between debian, mint and ubuntu as my main distros. To me the differences are huge, and if I could go back and re-write my original comment. I might ask why you switched from mint to ubuntu. I recently moved from mint xfce to xubuntu, and now i am happily using debian xfce.