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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#11
I worked for Amazon (Audible.com) from 2011 to 2014.

1 - Full-time freelance audiobook editor.

$30/hr

2 - Post-Production Associate - Level 6/4

$50,000/yr

35 shares of AMZN per year for three years

3 - ACX Production Coordinator - Level 7/5

$65,000/yr

Additional 20 shares of AMZN per year for three years

I am no longer ashamed to write these figures out to the public because I now make more than twice the salary that I was making before I left the company. I found that my salary at Amazon was always far too low given what I did, and my job titles were not at all representative of the job I actually did (for the 2nd and 3rd jobs they were almost entirely software engineering jobs.)

NOTE: Audible and Amazon have different job levels - Audible's job levels are two points higher than the same Amazon job level.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#12
post #5

While this doesn't have as much information as you listed, Glass Door ( https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/index.htm ) has information on job title/salaries at many companies. It's a "share your info and we'll let you see ours" set of rules, so be prepared to make a profile.

Funny that you mention this, because the character limit forced me to cut this out:

Sites like Glassdoor are useful, but what they don't provide is company-specific detail. I can view Amazon's average SDE salary, but is that figure for a job level 4 or job level 5? (At Amazon, pay is based on job levels. Two people can hold the same position but have different job levels. For example, Area Managers who are promoted from hourly positions start at level 4, but new hire AMs come in at L5).

Other things Glassdoor can't provide:

-Pay increase percentages for internal promotions

-Pay increases and stock award amounts for annual performance reviews based on performance grade

-Compensation data broken down by race, national origin, native language, etc.

-Differences in pay for positions based on team, department, geographic location, etc.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#13

Apologies for the bad formatting, it wouldn't let me edit for some reason. Here is a more readable version of my compensation: Position: Developer (not classified as SDE, do not manage ppl) Tenure: 2 years Job Level: 5 Base Pay: $73,000 Signing Bonus: $25k Year 1, $21k Year 2 2016 Stock Vest: 104 shares LY Review Score: Exceeds LY Pay Increase: 4%, plus 35 shares of AMZN Most Recent Promotion Increase/Stock Grant: N/…

i've witnessed the same internal hire negotiation imbalance at another company. you're definitely right, external hires have more leverage.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#14
I'm not an Amazonian, but I wanted to chime in here to say I think this thread is a great idea and I would love to see more like it.

I write about salary negotiation and coach people through it, and I think sharing salaries publicly will encourage more people to negotiate and get paid what they're worth.

I recently coached a new Amazon employee, and he got a very good offer, which he increased by about 15% using VERY simple negotiation tactics that we discussed. If he hadn't negotiated, he would've still been paid well, but would have left 15% on the table before he was even in the door.

I submitted this link yesterday—it's a Salary Negotiation workshop I did for developers in Orlando last week. It's definitely relevant to this conversation:

EDIT: Here's a direct link to the Salary Negotiation workshop summary to save you a click: http://bit.ly/21zFG5q

Here's the HN submission for posterity: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11305683

(Not sure why I originally linked to an HN submission linking to the workshop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Nice job starting this thread!

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#16
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What general region or city is this? Cost of living can be a major effect on pay, comparing, say, the insanity of the SF Bay area to anywhere else.

I mentioned this below, but I don't think location matters because Amazon doesn't provide cost of living adjustments. Location obviously matters from the individual's perspective, but from the company perspective it isn't factored into compensation.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#17

Stating which location you are in would be important for salary comparison purposes.

Actually not in this case, as Amazon doesn't provide cost of living adjustments. Location isn't factored into pay amount.

It isn't, but it's hard for outsiders compare that pay to their local pay. Ex: if you are making that in SF, then that's different than making it in Billings, MT, or remote.

So for example, that seems about right for Portland, OR.

Additionally, you don't mention how many total years of experience you have which would also let people compare. Ex: 2 years of total experience (straight out of college) vs 2 years at amazon, and 10 years elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#18

I worked for Amazon (Audible.com) from 2011 to 2014. 1 - Full-time freelance audiobook editor. $30/hr 2 - Post-Production Associate - Level 6/4 $50,000/yr 35 shares of AMZN per year for three years 3 - ACX Production Coordinator - Level 7/5 $65,000/yr Additional 20 shares of AMZN per year for three years I am no longer ashamed to write these figures out to the public because I now make more than twice the salary that…

Full-time freelance audiobook editor? I didn't realize that was a position. What exactly does this entail and how did you get started with it?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#19

Position: Developer in Seattle Tenure: 4 years Job Level: 5 Base Pay: $143,000 2016 Stock Vest: about 140 shares Review Score: Exceeds Gender: M Native English Speaker: Yes

Even with a throwaway, isn't that enough info for Amazon to identify you and possibly take punitive action? I understand that Amazon is big, but without adding a certain fudge factor or range to all the numbers, then I would think it's possible to identify a person.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

#20
I don't work at Amazon, but I have caught on to what, to me, seems to be an unsettling concept. This may or may not be new, but the concept I am getting it is often referred to as "internal equity" - considering what salaries are already in place for similar positions.

This appears to be one of many variables HR uses for salary negotiations and I recognize that. I don't see why this necessarily matters for most work places. Shouldn't you just pay for what the candidate brings to the table (skills, experience, etc.) and not consider what, even someone with a similar background is currently making in the company. I suppose salary negotiations/the labor market isn't an efficient market where a price can be assigned given x, y, & z.

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