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Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by ktRolster »

morb wrote: post #32
johnchristopher wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an equivalent to apt-get update && upgrade or do you need to track down each source/binary to keep things secured ?

slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all. See http://slackpkg.org/documentation.html . slackpkg is a part of Slackware, installed by default. If you really like apt, you can use slapt-get (and slapt-src) http://software.jaos.org/ . After answering this f. question with the same f. answer for literally 10 years, I'm starting to feel that some kind of re-branding would be a good thing for Slackware. It doesn't matter wh…

It's a reasonable distro.

And actually quite a pleasure to use, it is cleanly built.

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by acheron »

unixhero wrote: post #34

I really want the best for Slackware. I used to be a slacker 1996-2006 and grinded my Linux teeth on it. It escapes me why they don't want to innovate at all with a proper modern package manager. Also they need to remake their website and with that create a decent forum and a decent wiki just like Arch has perfectly done. Nowadays I don't care at all about knowing every corner of my system. I have applications to man…

I can't tell if "grinded my... teeth" is an accidental error, or an intentional mixed metaphor as a joke. But if it's not intentional then it should be, because I laughed.

I certainly ground my teeth while using Slackware in the 90s too, which is why I switched to Mandrake and then FreeBSD. :P

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by pjmlp »

ktRolster wrote: post #50
pjmlp wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was my very first one, Slackware 2 with kernel 1.0.9. I still remember the main feature being announced was the early support for elf format. Nowadays after a decade of jumping between OSes, I just settled on Windows, for better or worse, it does better what I need for my work (please don't start a flame war on this). However I do owe a lot to Slackware, as before it my only access to UNIX were expensive Xenix, Ai…

(please don't start a flame war on this). tbh I think you already flamed yourself, charred to a crisp, worse than any of us here could do. Windows User.

I don't see Windows User as being anything negative, given the pleasure I had in these 30 years developing for it, more than any UNIX platform I used in the same years.

But as I said, I don't want to start a flamewar about OSes and development tools available.

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by gmrs »

unixhero wrote: post #34

I really want the best for Slackware. I used to be a slacker 1996-2006 and grinded my Linux teeth on it. It escapes me why they don't want to innovate at all with a proper modern package manager. Also they need to remake their website and with that create a decent forum and a decent wiki just like Arch has perfectly done. Nowadays I don't care at all about knowing every corner of my system. I have applications to man…

I'm a bit skeptical about the word "modern" these days. slackpkg is a good package manager and does everything you need to keep your system up-to-date. From the slackware website:

"Slackware is designed around the idea that the system should be a complete installation kept updated with any official patches. This avoids the mess of dependencies that some other Linux based GNU systems face."

Why remake the website? The website is clear enough, has links to the Slackware Book and to a mailing list.

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by unixhero »

acheron wrote: post #52
unixhero wrote: post #34

I really want the best for Slackware. I used to be a slacker 1996-2006 and grinded my Linux teeth on it. It escapes me why they don't want to innovate at all with a proper modern package manager. Also they need to remake their website and with that create a decent forum and a decent wiki just like Arch has perfectly done. Nowadays I don't care at all about knowing every corner of my system. I have applications to man…

I can't tell if "grinded my... teeth" is an accidental error, or an intentional mixed metaphor as a joke. But if it's not intentional then it should be, because I laughed. I certainly ground my teeth while using Slackware in the 90s too, which is why I switched to Mandrake and then FreeBSD. :P

Grinding teeth, the proverbial milling of stone... Also as in learning the ropes, or training oneself, learning the hard way, et cetera.

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by unixhero »

gmrs wrote: post #54
unixhero wrote: post #34

I really want the best for Slackware. I used to be a slacker 1996-2006 and grinded my Linux teeth on it. It escapes me why they don't want to innovate at all with a proper modern package manager. Also they need to remake their website and with that create a decent forum and a decent wiki just like Arch has perfectly done. Nowadays I don't care at all about knowing every corner of my system. I have applications to man…

I'm a bit skeptical about the word "modern" these days. slackpkg is a good package manager and does everything you need to keep your system up-to-date. From the slackware website: "Slackware is designed around the idea that the system should be a complete installation kept updated with any official patches. This avoids the mess of dependencies that some other Linux based GNU systems face." Why remake the website? The…

It's not adequate sorry. I am not happy with mailing lists for community building. And I know of Linuxquestions.com forums, but that's not adequate either. Seriously, it would take 60 minutes to get this sorted, and 30 bucks yearly of hosting these forums.

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by unixhero »

crncosta wrote: post #48
unixhero wrote: post #34

I really want the best for Slackware. I used to be a slacker 1996-2006 and grinded my Linux teeth on it. It escapes me why they don't want to innovate at all with a proper modern package manager. Also they need to remake their website and with that create a decent forum and a decent wiki just like Arch has perfectly done. Nowadays I don't care at all about knowing every corner of my system. I have applications to man…

Here is the wiki you are looking for: http://docs.slackware.com/

Didn't see that one before. Good stuff they have one!

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by jff »

executesorder66 wrote: post #20
orthecreedence wrote: post #16

Slackware is the muscle car of linux distros. If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, it's fast and solid. Plus if you can master Slack, you can waltz into any other distro and not break a sweat. I've run it on desktops/servers since version 8 and love it. People knock it for not having a "real" package manager, but if you like the control of compiling from source then this doesn't really matter (and you always h…

How does the difficulty of installing Slackware compare to Arch or Gentoo? I've only ever installed and used Arch.

Installing it is actually pretty easy, because they provide a reasonably straightforward console-based "graphical" installer, rather than pretending that copy-pasting a bunch of commands off the [Gentoo|Arch] wiki will teach you anything beside how to install [Gentoo|Arch].

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by jff »

bitwize wrote: post #27
Tomte wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patrick Volkerding is hesitant about systemd, but not openly hostile, so he has decided to stay away from it for now, but hasn't ruled it out for the future. People who are set against systemd should probably better look elsewhere (although their options are pretty limited).

Alternatives include CRUX (whose maintainer's systemd stance is "over my dead body :)"), Void Linux (the only distro I know of to adopt systemd by default and then migrate away from it; currently it uses runit with systemd as an option), and Alpine. I'm sticking with Slack for the time being, but I've got my eye out for alternatives should the worst happen.

I've also played a little bit with Devuan, which is basically just Debian without systemd, and it seemed to work pretty well.

Re: Slackware 14.2 release candidate 1

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Post by fractal618 »

unixhero wrote: post #34

I really want the best for Slackware. I used to be a slacker 1996-2006 and grinded my Linux teeth on it. It escapes me why they don't want to innovate at all with a proper modern package manager. Also they need to remake their website and with that create a decent forum and a decent wiki just like Arch has perfectly done. Nowadays I don't care at all about knowing every corner of my system. I have applications to man…

25 days ago you said Linux Mint solved all of your problems... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11150556
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